30 Years WTTC: Mutungamiri Mukuru wekutanga Prof. Geoffrey Lipman anoda izwi rakasvibira uye rakachena kuti rive nebasa

Prof. Geoffrey Lipman

World Travel and Tourism Council yakavambwa muna1990, uye iri kupemberera makore makumi matatu kumusangano wayo wepasi rose muCancun, Mexico svondo rinouya. Wokutanga CEO Professor Geoffrey Lipman vanogovana maonero avo.

Juergen Steinme…: Nhasi, pane chiitiko chakakosha nei takakoka uye unoona iwo mufananidzo weavo. Eee, vashoma vanoona, ehe, purofesa Jeffrey Lippman, ari kubatana nesu kubva kuBrazil uye purofesa Lipman munhu anozivikanwa. Haasi kungotungamira yedu, um, mu, uh, yedu inoshamwaridzika mamiriro ekudyidzana boka, girini uye yakachena. Ini ndinofunga tinoidaidza yezwi rekushanya network. Akave ari anofamba uye achizungunusa uye mutambi muindasitiri kweakawanda makore. Ndinoziva Jeffrey nenzira inopfuura makore makumi maviri ikozvino. Uye, uh, takaita zvinhu zvakawanda pamwe chete, saka ndine rombo rakanaka uye ndinofara kwazvo kuva naye. Uye, ehe, Jeffrey aive iye chaiye munhu akatanga izwi rekufamba uye rekushanya koni. Yakanga iri brainchild yake uye ini ndinofunga ndiye aive wekutanga sachigaro kana purezidhendi kana CEO. Iwe unotiudza Jeffrey, mangwanani akanaka, manheru akanaka.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Manheru, Thomas. Uye zvinongofadza kukuona uchizviona uchishingaira. Mhamha handina kumbofara kana muchinditi munhu anozivikanwa nekuti ndinofunga kuti ndozvinotaurwa neFBI kana vachitsvaga munhu arikususpecter somewhere, asi ndafara nekukuzivai makore makumi maviri makashanda naye. iwe pazvirongwa zvakawanda, um, uye kugara uchiyemura yako, rudo rwako rwekushanya uye indasitiri yekushanya, yaunayo zvechokwadi uye nerutsigiro rwawakaita kuindasitiri, kunyanya mumwedzi gumi nembiri yakaoma, um, kana iwe. created WTN uye kuvakazve huzivi hwekufamba uye, uh, iwe wakabudirira, mukuvandudza, iwe unoziva, ndinofunga kuti achange akakosha zvakanyanya network, saka ndinofara kwazvo kuva newe nhasi. Ndiri kufara zvakapetwa kuvapo kana iwe uri pamutambo WTTC. Ini ndawana kukokwa, asi ndiri kuwana yangu yechipiri COVID yekudzivirira svondo rinouya.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Uye ini ndiri mukuru zvishoma kwauri. Saka ndiri muboka iro rine njodzi kana ini, saka, saka hapana mafambiro kwandiri. Uye ini, ndiri, ndiri kutarisira kumusangano uyu nekuti Gloria Guevara ishamwari yakanaka, um, ari kuita basa guru rekuvaka WTTC. Um, uye neimwe nzira, yandinofunga vese vakamutangira, ndini ndaive wekutanga kuyemura zvechokwadi. Ari kushandira pamwe nemamwe masangano makuru epasi rese, uh, pamwe akashata zvishoma neUN WTO, asi ini handifunge kuti imhosva yaGloria. Uye, uh, ndinofunga ari kuwana meseji kunze uko, yaive meseji, yaive chaiyo, yakatangwa nei muna 1990? Zvakanga zvisiri izvo, pfungwa dzangu ndichafanira, ndinofanira kujekesa izvi. Yakanga iri pfungwa yeboka, revanhu, vekuAmerica. Ini ndinogona kuitungamira zvakanyanya muAmerican Express, aive sachigaro, James Robbins, um, uye, uye, uye murume ane rombo rakanaka. [zvisinganzwike]

Prof Geoffrey L…: unogona kuyeuka murume wekuItaly wekushanya naLou Gerstner uyo, unoziva, akatungamirirwa, akazopedzisira ave, kuti abatanidzwe zvakanyanya mune izvo, uh, uh, jeri rekutora mutambo weNabisco, uye pakupedzisira akazogadzira pamwe sachigaro weBMM. Uye vaive nepfungwa muna 1990 nekuti American expression yaive, ndinoreva, inoshamisa sangano mune yemubatanidzwa nyika, kunze kwekufamba. Ivo vakanzwisisa kuti mamwe ese mabhizinesi aizvironga sei. Uye ivo vakaona kufamba uye kushanya kuri nyore. Akanga asiri kuita iwo mapoka emapato, aive akasimba kwazvo, senge, hongu. Eee, kwaive, um, matunhu ematunhu aungawana muEurope, senge yekuEurope yekupedza kupera, um, uye patter muAsia Pacific, asi ivo vaive vasina kubatana mukumisikidza chikamu kana mukati chaimo, um, vachibatanidza hupfumi uye zvemagariro kukanganisa kwehuwandu hwekufamba. Ndege dzakaparidza imwe nyaya, mahotera akadzika imwe nyaya, uye kutaura chokwadi, yese yakatambidzwa.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Iri danho pazasi pane zvido zvebhizimusi hombe zvaive. Saka American expression inoenda kune makumi maviri neshanu evakuru vatengi uye yaisanganisira vamwe vevatungamiriri chaivo vatungamiriri venzvimbo iyi. Bob Crandall yendege dzeAmerica aibatanidzwa zvakanyanya. Bill Marriott aibatikana zvakanyanya senge bhiri Murray, Bob anopisa, avo vaishingaira muHong Kong uye vakavaka dunhu. Uye vakaunganidza vanhu ava pamwechete. Vakavaendesa kumhando dzakasiyana dzemisangano yekuhwanda uye vakabvumirana kuti vagadzire mubatanidzwa wemuchinjikwa padanho rehutungamiriri, kunge kuve ini ndinotungamira musangano wepasi rose wehupfumi wekufamba uye kushanya. Ivo, ivo vanoshambadzira, uh, um, purezidhendi CEO. Uye ini ndakave nerombo rakanaka munzvimbo chaiyo, Colin Marshall weBritish airways uye lynching, sachigaro weSingapore airline show, wandinoziva, um, akakumbira kuti ndiende pane pfupi runyorwa kana rurefu runyorwa sezvawaive kutanga nazvo.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Uye ndakapfuura nemuhurukuro dzakateedzana uye, ndikapihwa basa iri. Uye, uye panguva iyoyo, pakanga paine pfungwa. Iyo, iro basa raive rako basa nderekutimiririra. Isu tiri kunyanya kumhanyisa makambani edu. Isu hatidi kupa nguva kune chimwe chinhu, kuvaka mubatanidzwa mutsva, uye isu tichakupa iwe kuti uite izvozvo. Uye ivo vakati, heino pepa risina chinhu. Heino bhajeti. Uye yakanga isiri bhajeti hombe mumazuva iwayo kuve Frank chaiye newe. Uye ivo vakati, nyora chirevo chemamishinari uye varongi uye vachishanda padhuze neAmerican expression zvakanyanya kutungamirirwa naJim Robinson. Panguva yatakatanga kuvaka diki sangano. Uh, mushandi wekutanga aive mukomana anonzi Rick Miller. Ndinofunga unogona kumurangarira. Um, anga ari shasha pakombuta yeApple uye ese manhamba aunoona izvozvi, vaive mhando yemacobbled pamwe mukamuri diki.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Uye isu takavaka tsvimbo diki kutanga muBrussels, uyezve muLondon. Uye, uye ini ndanga ndiripo kwemakore gumi. Takatanga kuburitsa mishumo yakakomba yehupfumi. Isu taive nemushumo watakapihwa neAmerican expression kubva kuWharton bhizinesi chikoro, icho chaive chaita satellite iyi kuverenga kwekutora ruzivo rwekufamba uye kushanya kubva kunzvimbo dzakasiyana kwazvakapararira muhupfumi. Izvo, ndataura izvi kwauri kare. Ini ndinofunga pane imwe yeanoratidzira, iwe unofanirwa kutora maakaundi emunyika uko kushanya kwanga kusingaonekwe, uye unofanirwa kuisa sedanda repurasitiki pamusoro pechikwekwe, kwese uko kushanya kuri kushanda, uyezve wosimudza plastiki. Uye, uye ikozvino zvese zvaitwa nemakomputa, asi iwe une mufananidzo weyekufamba uye yekushanya indasitiri. Uye ndinoziva muna 10, ndinofunga takaburitsa mushumo wedu wekutanga uye ndanga ndichifamba ndichiti, iri indasitiri hombe zviri gumi nezvisere zveupfumi hwenyika.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Uye vanhu vaimboseka vachiti, izvi hazvina musoro. Um, WTO yaive neboka rinoshanda rakagadzirirwa kuratidza kuti manhamba edu akange asina kunaka, asi makore makumi matatu gare gare, hauone chirevo chisingatore WTTC figures. Uye ndizvo zvinoratidza, zve, ndinofunga chiono chevakavamba sangano, chokwadi chekuti takanamatira zvakanyanya kuchinangwa chedu. Ndaiwanzotenderera mumakore makumi mashanu ndichiti, Oh Mwari, ndiVaM. 50% zvakare. Nekuti ndozvandaigara ndichitaura. Ini handina kutaura 10, mitengo minomwe, 10.3% yehupfumi. I10% yemabasa. Iyo 10% yemari yekudyara uye yakakosha uye yakakura kupfuura chero imwe indasitiri. Uye takawana chinokwezva uye sangano rakavaka nhengo yakavakwa, ndinofunga zvakadaro, pamwe zana rekugutsurira pandakaenda. Uye nepivotally uye chinhu chandinoda chaizvo kutaura newe nhasi mushure me10, ndakaenda kumusangano chaiwo wehunyanzvi.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Eee, ndaona kuti paive nerimwe divi kune, kune yakanaka divi rekufamba uye kushanya senge chikamu chinokanganisa. Nehurombo, sachigaro wangu webhodhi rangu panguva iyoyo akazviziva izvi uye vakabvumirana kuti isu tinofanirwa kugadzira mamwe maratidziro enharaunda. Saka isu ipapo panzvimbo yekuva nechero seti yezvirongwa, isu takazopedzisira tave nevatatu, isu takave nehupfumi hwekuita zvidzidzo uye zvese zvezvinhu zvinoenda nemutero iwoyo kukanganisa uye zvimwe zvinhu. Asi ipapo isu takave neboka rezvirongwa zvemamiriro ekunze. Isu tinogadzira nzvimbo yekutsvagisa nzvimbo. Takatanga chirongwa chekutanga setifiketi, kuyerera kwegirini. Uye, uh, uyezve takave nehurongwa hwedzidzo kwatakatanga kutaura nemayunivhesiti. Uye ndakaita izvo kwemakore gumi. Ini, um, ndakasiya mukati, muna10 ndokuenda, kunoshanda newe uye WTO senge, sekutaurwa kwevanhu, iwe uri, anovenga mhuka anotendeuka.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Uye ndinofunga panguva iyoyo, iwe neni takasangana uye, uye isu takaedza kuenderera mberi ichi chivakwa chemubatanidzwa, um, sezvandambotaura pakutanga, ndizere nekuyemura zvauri kuita. pamwe WTN uye kusimba kwako nekushingirira uye nzira yauri kutumira nayo meseji. Uye iwe wakaita chimwe chinhu chandisina kumbokwanisa kuita pandakashanda ne tele refi, kwemakore gumi amakagumisira kuUTO, handina kumbomuita kuti aite zvinhu zvauri kuita kuti aite. Saka ndinokukorokotedza pamusoro pazvo. Akasiya basa, munoziva, saka ndosaka ari iye akanyanya, ndiye anonyanya kushanda, akarega basa mune zvakasikwa. Ari pazviratidzwa zvako zvose. Iye mukuru. Zvakanyanya, zvakanaka kumuona, asi Thomas, zvandanga ndichida kutaura newe, uye ndinoda, unoziva, mharidzo yekubuda kune vanhu vakatarisa.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Range riri vhiki rinokosha zvinoshamisa, kwete zvekufamba nekushanya chete, asi ndinofunga zvepasirese. Eee, uye ndiri kutaura nezve kutanga chibvumirano chakamonerwa pakati pemunyori mutsva wenyika, uh, Anthony Blinken neUnited States nehurumende yeChina uye, naJohn Kerry, mumiriri wemamiriro ekunze weUnited States, iyo US neChina havangangotanga chete kushanda pamwechete mukugadzirisa kushanduka kwemamiriro ekunze uye kurwisa dambudziko remamiriro ekunze, asi vaizotora zvakare chinzvimbo chehutungamiriri. Tave nemakore mana, e, munoziva, chinzvimbo changu pamakore mana apfuura ehutungamiriri hwehurumende yeUS yanga iri nenjodzi, yanga ichinyengera, yanga isina chinhu munhu wese kunze kweboka diki revanhu vaive nemari yekuwana. simba. Uye vakatitora zvachose munzira isiriyo. Chinhu chekutanga chakaitwa naDonald Trump, takazivisa nemufaro mukuru.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Aibvisa America muchibvumirano chimwe chete, chibvumirano cheParis, icho America yakanga yabatsira bhiri uye inova nzvimbo imwechete yatine chiratidzo che, che, vashoma vanochengeta vanhu. Uye akaburitsa America, huru, hupfumi, yakasvibisa zvikuru. Uye kwemakore mana, isu taifanira kuteerera kumanyepo ake asina maturo uye kuramba kwemamiriro ekunze. Uye mukati memwedzi mitatu, purezidhendi Biden atanga America kutaura zvine mutsindo, zvakare, kutaura zvine mutsindo uye nezvekunze kwenyika. Uye zvinonyanya kukosha, kutaura nezve hutungamiriri pakuderedza kabhoni uye kugadzikana kwemamiriro ekunze, uye chokwadi chekuti vari kuita neChina, hupfumi hwechipiri hukuru, uye wechipiri musvibisi mukuru, zvine mutsindo zvinoshamisa nekuti tinoziva EU iri pamberi pane izvi track yakaramba isingachinji, yakazvipira kudzikisa kabhoni yayo nematanho anoyera pakati pe20, 20 na2050, kuidzikisa kune inonzi net zero, zvinoreva kuti hausi kunyatsogadzira kabhoni, kana usiri, hausi. kwete kuburitsa chero chinhu chakanaka che kabhoni.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Izvo zvaunogadzira iwe zvinogumbura nekusimudzira zviitiko zvekudzora kabhoni, kunyanya munyika dzichiri kusimukira. EU iri kumberi pane izvo. Chokwadi America yadzoka patafura, China iri kumashure patafura. Uye mazuva maviri ekupedzisira, mutungamiri wenyika yako Biden akaita musangano wepasi rose wehutungamiriri, uyo wakagadzirirwa kuti munhu wese awedzere kuita kwavo. Iye akazivisa kuti United States iri kuwedzera, et cetera, uye iri kudzikisa yayo, yayo, kana iri kuisa nyowani, inorema kudzikisira vavariro. Eee, uye izvo zvinotumira mameseji anoshamisa epasi uye zvinotipa chete girazi retariro kune zvatingaite mune ramangwana. Uye izvo zvandiri kufarira izvozvi kumuona, izvo zvandiri kupa hupenyu hwangu kuti isu tigone kukudziridza iyo yandinodaidza kuti mamiriro ekunze ane hushamwari ehurongwa, um, nekuti kune yakawanda yekushora nenzira yekufamba nekushanya kwaive kuri kusimukira misika mizhinji, uh, um, uh, kukosheswa kukuru pakukura uye kukura uye kukura, kubuda kwekushanya pamusoro, zvikepe zvakakura zvekuenda kunzvimbo dzakakosha seVenice.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Uye ndinofunga, haa, kana iwe ukateerera zviri mutungamiri wenyika Biden nechikwata chake, vari kupokana, hazvisi zvekuti isu takamisa kukura nekusimudzira, asi kuti takazvimisikidza nenzira, inova iyo, iyo haina kabhoni. Uye ndinotenda inofanirwa kunge iri wachi kabhoni zero na2050, ini ndaizoenda kumberi. Saka ndinofunga uripo panguva yenhoroondo. Uye yekupedzisira pfungwa yandinofunga kuti ndaizotaura ndeyekuti shamwari yangu, Gloria Guevara, uyo wandinoshanda naye padhuze nenyaya idzi, atungamira zvine mutsindo pachinhu ichi. Iye akamubatanidza, ehe, masangano aakazvigadzirisa kuti agadzire rakasimba boka rekutarisa rinotungamirwa naDaryl chena kubva kune Asina kutya. Uh, anga ave padhuze nemusoro wesangano reUN mamiriro ekunze, Patricia Espinosa, nekuti vaive vashandi pamwe chete muKabineti pamwe chete kuMexico, uko mava muhurumende yemutungamiriri wenyika Coldiron.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Uye akashanda nesu kuzuva X Malter. Eee, kuitira kuti usango gadzira mushumo wepagore une mamiriro eyakaitika chikamu, ayo isu tichaisa pamwechete, um, munguva yaJune rechishanu, rinova zuva rezvakatipoteredza pasi rose, tangova nezuva, asi Chikumi rechishanu richava zuva rezvakatipoteredza pasi rese uye isu tichagadzira yedu yechipiri mhando yekuongorora kuti chikamu ichi chiripi uye kwachinofanira kuenda. Uye ivo vakatsigira chirongwa chatakaita muMalta chekumisa registry umo makambani nenharaunda vanogona kunyatso file iyo kudzikiswa kwekabhoni uye chirongwa chebudiriro yekusimudzira. Uye isu takaisa mari mune izvi isu tatova, uh, tinogadza hwaro hunoenderana neUN mamiriro ekunze mamiriro. Patricia Espinosa achangobva, um, akatsigira izvi semamiriro ekunze, uh, nzvimbo yekufamba uye yekushanya yekubatana neUN system. Uye hapana munhu anga akazvipira zvakanyanya muchinhu ichi, Gloria. Saka zvakanaka kuti iwe uripo uye ndine chokwadi mukati memazuva anouya, pachave neakawanda mareferenzi kune izvi.

Juergen Steinme…: Kwete. Anoshamisa. Ndiri Jeffrey. Kutenda nekuisa izvi patafura. Eee, inonakidza nhoroondo, inonakidza nyaya. Uye isu tose tiri kutarisira mberi. Ini ndinofunga kupi izvi, uko indasitiri yedu irikuenda uye unoona sei COVID iyo yese COVID denda inoita chinzvimbo mune izvi? Yakavhura mikana maererano nekuvaka zvakare indasitiri? Chii, um, chii chinotarisa pane shanduko yemamiriro ekunze uye zvichingodaro?

Prof Geoffrey L…: Ehe. Iwe unoziva, ndinosazeza, kugadzira kubatana uku kwe, kwemabhenefiti eCOVID nekuti chaizvo COVID parizvino ichiripo. Uye mumaonero angu, icharamba iripo kwenguva yakati wandei. Ndakagara, pamapurogiramu ako ndisati ndafano funga, handifunge kuti pane vanhu vanouya uye, uye kuita fungidziro dzive neruzivo rwekuti ichi, hutachiona uhu hunoshanda sei uye hunoshanduka sei marwadziro aro vanhu yemapoka api, inorwisa kuti ingarara sei uye yoerekana yamuka zvakare. Uye ini ndinofunga zvinosuruvarisa, kushanya kwekushanya kwakada kufanana neichi chiitiko nekuti hutachiona hunofamba kana vanhu vachifamba uye nekudaro zvese zvehutano zvinodiwa, izvo zviri kutanga kubuda. Ndakaona kunyangwe izvi nhasi, ndakawana mupristi achindiudza, ER, kune UN WTO inomira kuburitsa ruzivo nezve nyika uye, uye nendege dziri kuda kubva kumutakurwi.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Uye ruzivo irworwo runochinja. Saka unogona kubva kuHawaii uine mimwe mirau uye unogona kuenda kuMexico. Uye nenguva yaunoenda kumba, mirau haigone kuchinja nekuti mamiriro ehutano hweveruzhinji mune imwe kana imwe yenzvimbo zvachinja uye zvinogona kuchinja kana iwe uripo. Saka ini ndinofunga iyo COVID dambudziko rangoita chinhu chimwe chete kana zvimwe zvinhu zviviri maererano nezvinhu zvakasvibirira. Yakaitwa kuti zvese zvifambe zvishoma uye kana zvoenda zvishoma, chinhu chechipiri chazvinoitwa kudzikisa kabhoni kuburitsa nekuti kune mashoma ndege dzinobhururuka. Kune mashoma mahotera ari kushanda, inzvimbo yepamusoro. Uye saka tiri kuburitsa zvishoma Calvin. Iye zvino zvinoenderana nezano rekutanga, uyu murangariro wevafambi, ndinofunga zvichave nemhedzisiro huru pakufamba kwebhizinesi. Isu tave kutaurirana nenzira dzekutaura, isu hatina izvi, munoziva, zoom world.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Izvo, isu, tinosangana zvese zviri kuitika izvozvi. Iwe uchangobva kuzivisa kuti uri kurarama uchiitenderera. Ini ndinogona kugara zvangu, papatio yangu uye ndinogona kuona zviri kuitika. Uye kana ini ndichida kutora chikamu, ndinogona kuisa mubvunzo uye kuupindura. Tiri kuita musangano muvhiki, vhiki kana musangano wevechidiki, iyo yakasimba yepasi musangano wevechidiki. Uye isu tiri kutarisira mazana mashanu evechidiki kubva pasirese pasirese. Zvakanaka, dai taifanira kuronga chiitiko ichocho, vamwe vanhu vaizoti, zvakanaka, pane zvimwe zviitiko zvemakonzo, kana tichifanira kuronga kuti vechidiki vaifanira kubhadhara, taifanira kubhadhara edu kuedza kwako. Uye kune izvo zvivakwa mumahotera uye munhu wese ari muindasitiri ari kukuvadza panguva ino, munhu wese muindasitiri kazhinji. Saka mikana yekukwirwa nekukurumidza mumaonero angu, yakanyanya, kushomeka kwekufamba kwezororo icharamba ichienderera.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Uye ndinofunga kuti pane meseji inoti kune vanhu vaunogona kuvimba navo vaviri, vaviri, haufanire kuenda nekukasira. Unogona kuenda kune dzimwe nyika. Iwe unogona, um, ini ndinofunga zvakanyanya nezve zvaunoita kune vanhu vemuno uye nemanzwiro, anga ari aya kubvira 1992 akakura panguva ino. Uye ndinofunga iwe uchaona izvi zvinhu zviviri, asi iyo yeCoban mhedzisiro iri, diki kwazvo. Izvo, iwe unoziva, vamwe vanhu vanoti isu takave nekabhoni yakaburitswa ye, yepasi pegumi muzana muzana panguva yeCOVID, asi mumufananidzo mukuru wezvinhu. Uye maererano nekuyedza kusvitsa panogumira kabhoni na10. Saka tembiricha yepasi haiwedzere nemadhigiri anodarika 2050 izvo zvakaitika munguva yeCOVID hazvisi chinhu chatiri munzira, kusvika mazuva matatu.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Uye kana tikaverenga madhigirii matatu uye inguva yemakore makumi matatu, inguva yeupenyu hwendege imwe, munoziva, zita rerwendege. Saka hazvisi zvisina musoro kuti isu tinofanirwa kunge tichifunga nezve izvi. Kana iri madhigirii matatu, iwo, iwo mazinga egungwa ari kuzokwira. Saka nzvimbo dzakaita seMiami dzichazadzwa mafashama zvachose Honolulu. Uye moto wesango watakaona uchipisa muCalifornia neAustralia uye muSiberia Tundra, ivo vachawanda zvinoshamisa. Iyo, iyo yatakaona muCaribbean, iyo yakatsvaira nyika yese yeChitsuwa States, ivo vachawedzera uye nekuwanda kwavo. Saka kubva pane chaiyo yekudzora kabhoni yekuona, iyo COVID dambudziko haina kuita zvishoma. Uye nzira chete yatingafungidzira chiyero chitsva, zvinova ndizvo zvatinoda, inofanira kuva yakakomba zvikuru, kuronga kushingaira, kudzikisa macaron nekabhoni, nematanho anoshamisa pamusoro pemakore makumi maviri nemashanu anotevera.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Uye inofanirwa kutanga izvozvi, haugone kutaura, saka, tiri kuzvimanikidza makore mashanu. Inofanira kutanga ikozvino zvinoreva mhando nyowani dzendege. Izvi zvinoreva mafuta matsva, ayo asingaburitse kusvibiswa, mibvunzo mikuru kutenderera nekuvaka zvikepe zvakakura zvine vanhu zviuru gumi pavari, mibvunzo mikuru. Uye zvinoreva kuti mahotera achafanirwa kugadzirisa avo vese. Isu tinofanirwa kutanga tatanga kushandisa simba rezuva, simba remhepo mune dzimwe nguva, simba renyukireya uye, uye zvese izvi zvinozoreva kukura kukuru kwehupfumi, kukura kukuru kwehupfumi. Kana zvaitwa nemazvo. Ndozviri kutaurwa nemutungamiri Biden. Tinogona kusimudzira hupfumi nekuti mabasa maviri ega ega, ndakaverenga izvi kumwe kuchangoburwa, yega yega mabasa maviri aunofungidzirwa kuti uwane kubva mukushandisa marasha. Kune makumi mashanu emabasa mukuisirwa kwezuva, uye iwo akachena mabasa. Haufanire kudzika pasi maburi muvhu. Iwo mainjiniya, mahunyanzvi, ndeve cyber vanhu. Saka pane mukana wakakura. Uye iri, uye chikamu chedu. Hausi iwo mubvunzo wekuti unogona kuchinja. Inofanira kuchinja uye inofanira kuchinja. Uye inofanira kutanga izvozvi. Inofanirwa kumira kuve izwi rechimiro quo. Tinofanira kutora chinzvimbo chehutungamiriri nekuti kana zvisiri, isu tinosara kumashure. Uye maGretta tune magegi epasi rino achati, usashandise makambani anosvibisa aya

Juergen Steinme…: Uye Jeffrey, kana iwe, ndinofunga imwe yeiyo, imwe yeaya, nyaya dziri pano. Vanhu havasi vechikamu chikuru, vasina kunyatsodzidziswa, um, nezve shanduko yemamiriro ekunze. Pese panenge paine dutu rechando, ini ndinonzwa kukakavara, iwe unoona, uku ndiko kushanduka kwemamiriro ekunze. Kwava kutonhora. Haisi kudziya. Uye, uye, uyezve iwe, unoona nezuro ndakatarisa zvinyorwa. Eee, ini ndinofunga yaive yenyika geographics pane iyo ndege pamusoro peHonolulu ichienda kuDenver. Uye zvainakidza kuti chii, izvo zvawataura, zvingaitwe nedhigirii rimwe, ndiani anoisa senge dziviriro huru uye kwete chechokwadi chete, chikuru chipingamupinyi, chii chinogona kuputswa nenzvimbo huru yekuzvidzivirira kumamiriro epanyika nepese pese. zvimwe. Eee, saka vanhu, ini handifunge kuti chikamu chikuru chakadzidziswa nezve mhedzisiro yekushanduka kwemamiriro ekunze uye chaizvo

Prof Geoffrey L…: Kubatanidzwa kwako, kwete chizvarwa chedu. Ini ndinokusanganisira iwe muchizvarwa chedu, kunyangwe ndichiziva kuti ndinogona kukupa makore mashoma. Eee, asi vechidiki, ivo vakadzidza. Vechidiki vane zuva repasi pachikoro, vanodzidza nezve idzi nyaya uye vane hanya nenyaya idzi. Isu tanga tichiita diploma kosi yevadzidzi makumi mashanu nevashanu vakapedza kudzidza kubva munyika makumi matatu kupota nyika kwemwedzi mitanhatu yapfuura muMalta kana zvirizvo chaizvo, asi kubva kuMalta. Uye, uye hatifanirwe kuvadzidzisa kuti shanduko yemamiriro ekunze ndeyechokwadi. Vanouya vachiziva izvo zvatinofanira kuvadzidzisa ndeyekuti mhinduro yemabhizimusi inokwana sei nemhinduro dzese dzevanhu. Tourism ine nzira inoshamisa yekugadzira yayo mhinduro. Uye, munoziva, isu takakosha. Tinofanira kuzviita nenzira iyi. Isu hatisi yakakosha kesi. Kana, kana isu tikasagadzirisa iyi nyaya, isu tinopedzwa senge munhu wese.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Uye, uye isu tinofanirwa kutarisira nzvimbo idzodzo, dzatinoziva tese kuti, dzine njodzi. Ndege dzinogadzira chakakosha huwandu hwese hwekufamba uye hwekushanya indasitiri kusvibiswa. Nzeve yekumira pakubata neizvi kusvika parizvino yave, ndainongedzera kwairi seNeanderthal. Nyika dzese dzinoti hatifanirwe kunge tisina kabhoni na2050, zvakanyanya kunyangwe nendege dzeAmerica dzatungamira pane izvi. Uye zvino dzimwe nendege dzekuEurope, ane chinzvimbo panosvika 2050. Tichaderedza kabhoni yedu kusvika hafu yematanho ataive nawo muna 2005. Chinzvimbo chisina maturo. Ndiyo, inzvimbo yekumanikidza ya2010 uye vanofanirwa, hazvina kunaka kutaura kuti isu tiri vatungamiriri. Uyezve kuratidza kuti ndimi vanhu vekupedzisira muchinamato.

Juergen Steinme…: Ehe, zvirokwazvo. Uh, dzokera zvishoma kune izvo zvawataura nezve kufamba bhizinesi. Eee, fungidziro yako, aya mafambiro achauya mushure me COVID pamwe pamwe netarisiro pamwe nekushanduka kwemamiriro ekunze, kugadzirisa uye kufamba kwebhizinesi kunogona kusiiwa kumashure. Chii, chii, sei basa rekuzorora rekufamba semuenzaniso, muhotera, yakafanana nehotera yandiri kugara pano, asi zvinoita kunge chikamu chakanaka chemari muhotera iyi inofanirwa kunge iri magungano nekuti hapana nzvimbo yemusangano iri padyo nehotera . Vachagona sei kuita basa nekutarisira iyo mari? Kufamba kwekuzorora kwaizogadzira nekungonakidzwa chete kufamba kwaizovapo mukati, mukati, uh, mune izvi, um, mamiriro ekushanya?

Prof Geoffrey L…: Zvakanaka, vangangotadza, vanofanirwa, vanofanirwa kuchinjika. Iwe unoziva, iro Dodo rakashanda sei apo vanhu vakauya kuMaricia sin chikepe ndokutanga kuchidya kwemasikati, kana iwe uchitaura, tsvaga nzira yekukugadzirisa iwe, unofa hombe, hombe hotera. Tichafanirwa kutsvaga nzira dzekuchinja yavo yemari mutengo musanganiswa. Vachafanira kutsvaga nzira dzekuwedzera chinhu chimwe chete, nguva yekudzora izvo zvinodiwa nesimba. Vachafanirwa kuenda kune rakasvibira simba uye ivo vanofanirwa kutsvaga musanganiswa uko kune kukwidza kwakawanda kune vekutandara vafambi. Zvichida mitero ichafanirwa kukwira kune vafambi vezororo. Eee, iwe unoziva, kana pasina bhizinesi chikamu ipapo kana chikamu chebhizinesi chakatemerwa, iwe, iwe unofanirwa kutsiva icho nechimwe chinhu kubva kuchikamu chekuzorora, kana iwe unofanirwa kudzikisa kugona kwako. Unofanira kuderedza vashandi vako.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Eee, zvese izvi zvinotsigira bhizinesi uye hurumende inofanirwa kutsvaga nzira dzekuvabatsira kuita shanduko iyi. Iwe unoziva kuti pane zvakawanda. Ivo vanofanirwa kutsvaga nzira dzekugadzira. Iwe neni tese tinoziva. Ndichakupa muenzaniso wakakwana. Ini ndakanyorera kuhurukuro svondo rapfuura kuna Boris Johnson. Ndinoziva kuti haaverenge tsamba dzangu. Kana achigona kuverenga. Ini ndakanyorera kune ane rezinesi kurambana kusvetuka uye mune rimwe peji. Uye ini ndakati, heino mukana wekuti iwe uite chimwe chinhu, chiri chakanakira indasitiri yekushanya neyekushanya. Uri kuitisa musangano pakupera kwegore. Sei usinga zivise kuti urikutora airport mutakurwi basa, iro rinogadzira mabhiriyoni mana mapaundi pagore. Saka hurumende yeUK, uye urikugadzira muhomwe kubatsira mabhizimusi madiki kuita shanduko yekushanya kwemamiriro ekunze. Uyezve ndakaita chimwe chinhu. Ndakatanga kakukumbira kadiki.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Anogona kuzviita online. Chero ani zvake, unogona kutanga chikumbiro. Zvakanaka, iwe unofanirwa kuve mugari weUK kuti uite izvozvo. Asi ini ndichiri kuona chikumbiro chakanyatsoti, sei usingaite izvi izvozvi, kana iwe uchifunga izvo, izvo hazvibhadhare iyo UK peni. Vanowana mari iyi kubva kune vafambi. Vanga vachizviita kubvira 1994. Yakatanga iine mamirioni mazana matatu, pagore. Iye zvino vanowana mazana mana, vanowana mabhiriyoni mana emapaunzi pagore uye inogara mukati mehomwe. Saka vanogona kuitora pasina muripo kuUK. Uye ivo vanogona kubatsira kune iyi shanduko. Ini ndinofunga mabhangi anogona kubatsira nekupa, iwe unoziva, chairo rupo mari yechikwereti inokwana panguva ino, kufarira pazvikwereti kwakanyanya zilch, saka ivo vanogona kuyedza kutsvaga chimwe chinhu chinopa makore mashanu hwindo. Uye zvakare, iwe unoziva, vanhu vangatofanira kubhadhara yakawanda. Ndinoramba ndichidzoka kune izvi. Zvinonzwika senge anathema, asi haugone kuramba uchityaira mutengo pasi uye pasi uye pasi. Pakupedzisira iwe unofanirwa, iwe unofanirwa kubhadhara kune izvo zvinoda.

Juergen Steinme…: Ehe. Uye, uye ndiwo mashandiro emahara emusika, ndinofungidzira.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Zvakanaka, pamwe, nedhipatimendi rezvemitemo shure kwavo,

Juergen Steinme…: Jeffrey chaizvo, nhaurirano yakanaka. Uye ndinofunga vanhu vazhinji vari muno muCancun uye avo vari kufara kuteerera WTTC mharidzo dzeMuvhuro neChipiri, uh, vangafarira kuteerera iyi isati yatanga. Uye handizive kana iwe uchida kutaura chimwe chinhu zvakare, uh, kare WTTC kutanga, tichatora odhiyo iyi pano uye, uh, tiratidze kune vanhu vazhinji sezvatinogona.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Kwete, kwete, chekutanga, ndinotenda kuchinjana uku newe. Koshesa mukana wekuita zvinhu newe. Um, ndinofunga tichava nezvakawanda, uh, ndinoziva kuti izvi zvaive zvakadzama Thomas, asi tichazoita hurukuro yakadzama naVJ akazvidhonza, dai mumwe wevachabatsira uye vateveri vezvamuri kuita. Ndinofunga tiri kuronga kuedza kuita izvi musi wechina we, um, we, wemwedzi unouya. Um, uye kutaura pamusoro pechinhu ichi chese chehutungamiriri hweChina uye shanduko yehurumende yeBiden kutora basa rekuita, rakanaka mukugadzirisa dambudziko remamiriro ekunze sekuti pamwe uri iwo mukana wekupedzisira wevanhu. Ndanga ndichitevera zvinhu izvi kwemakore makumi matatu kubva pandakatanga nazvo WTTC kusvika, uye kubvira pandakava shamwari naMorris yakasimba muRio, baba ve, zvebudiriro.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Uye anga achinongedzera muna 1972 nemusangano wekutanga, dambudziko remamiriro ekunze inyaya hombe. Iwe haugone, haugone, haugone kugadzira akanaka ma ads kushandura pasi kubva mukusagadzikana. Vanhu vekutengesa havagone kuzviita. Iri idambudziko rakakomba. Uye isu tinofanirwa, isu tinofanirwa kushandura uye isu neChina neEU, uh, tichiumba chinzvimbo chakajairika uye zviri, asi chinzvimbo chakajairika chinoda kugoverwa kwakakomba kwenzira yemitengo yakatorwa kure nefosili mafuta. Ndiri kureva, inyika inopenga. Thomas hurumende dzichiri kutsigira marasha. Hurumende dzichiri kutsigira kutsvaga kwemafuta, uye vanoziva kuti izvi zvinokuuraya. Uye iyi modhi, iri mhando inoenderana nezvakaitika nefodya, iwe unoziva, ehe, unogona, unogona kuzviuraya, asi isu takaisa yambiro pasuru. Kupenga, handiti? Tinofanira, ivo vanofanirwa kutora matanho akasimba chaizvo, akakura.

Prof Geoffrey L…: Uye ndatenda kunaka WTTC isangano. Haisi iyo yega, asi inoitika kuti yakanyatso kurongeka izvozvi kukwanisa kupa humwe hutungamiriri munzira iyi. Uye zvimwe zvacho zvichange zvakaoma kuchinja. Vazhinji venhengo vanoti hatingaite shift iyoyo hotera yauri panguva ino, kana ichinyatso chinja, zvinototi kana tisina kushandisa mafuta ecarrot, chii. mafuta tinogona kushandisa? Zvinotidyira chii? Vanofanira kuronga izvozvo. Uye vechidiki, ndiyo mharidzo yangu yekupedzisira, vechidiki, vana vangu, vandine vazukuru zvino. Uye, uye, uye, uye vakangwara panyaya idzi. Vanongoti chinja nzira yauri kuita nayo bhizimusi. Ndizvo WTTC nhengo dzine

Juergen Steinme…: Vanozviita. Saka zvese ndezvehutungamiriri uye, he, zvakanaka, Jeffrey, zvanga zvakanaka chaizvo kuva newe pano Mugovera uno netariro. Uh, tinogona kutaura zvakare, pamwe mushure memusangano weCPC, uye iwe unogona kutipa maonero ako pane zviri kuitika uye chero nguva iwe zvakanaka,

Prof Geoffrey L…: Ndiri kutarisa, ndichave ndichiona rwizi rwenyu. Ini ndinofunga zvakanaka kana iwe uri kuzviisa kunze. Ndine urombo chaizvo nekusavapo newe. Eee, tanga tave nemanheru akanaka akawanda pamwechete, zviitiko izvi zvakasiyana, um, asi ini ndiri, ndiri, handisi kunzwa kushatirwa pamusoro pekuve pamba.

Juergen Steinme…: Kwete, unofanirwa, wasvika kumba kwakanaka uye, uh, uye, uye kudya kwemanheru kuri pano, munoziva? Ehe. Ivo vakasununguka. Zvese-zvinosanganisa saka, iwe unoziva, ndeimwe kudya kwemanheru, ndinofungidzira, asi, uh, tichaenda kunodya pamwe muBrussels, zvakare, munzvimbo chaiyo apo COVID inopetwa pasi kudzamara isu tese tine mushonga, um ,

Prof Geoffrey L…: Vanotya iwe munzvimbo inosanganisirwa, Thomas, nekuti ndadya chikafu chakanaka kwazvo newe. Ndinoziva kuti unofarira chikafu chako.

Juergen Steinme…: Zvakanaka. Zvakanaka, ndiri, ndiri, ndiri, ndiri kuedza kutema, saka, asi vane nzvimbo yekurovedza muviri padhuze nesu, saka chikamu chakanaka. Ngatione. Zvese zvakanaka. Jeffrey, iwe chenjera uye hongu,

Prof Geoffrey L…: Nemiwo. Zvakanaka chaizvo. Uye ndinokutendai zvikuru nekuda kweizvozvo.

Juergen Steinme…: Zvakanaka. Zvakanaka. Zvichengetedze. Sara mushe

Prof Geoffrey L…: Bye.

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Juergen Thomas Steinmetz akaramba achishanda muindasitiri yekufambisa uye yekushanya kubva achiri mudiki kuGerman (1977).
Iye akatanga eTurboNews muna 1999 sebhuku rekutanga repamhepo pamhepo yepasirese yekushanya indasitiri yekushanya.

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