Kana iwe uchida kuita bhizinesi muAfrica, usaendeko! Kusvikira wapinda 2009 US-Africa Business Summit muWashington, DC mukupera kwaGunyana. Pachiitiko ichocho uchasangana nevanhu vanopfuura zviuru zviviri kusanganisira vatungamiriri vebhizinesi, makurukota, nhengo dzedare remakurukota, uye pamwe kunyange Mutungamiriri weUnited States. Ipapo iwe unofanirwa kujoinha sangano rinotarisira summit: The Corporate Council on Africa. Iye zvino wagadzirira kuenda kunoita bhizinesi muAfrica!
Nhasi, tine Sandy Dhuyvetter weTravel Talk Radio achiita hurukuro naStephen Hayes, mutungamiri uye CEO weThe Corporate Council on Africa.
Sandy Dhuyvetter: Isu tine mumwe munhu anga ari pachiratidziro kazhinji, uye handikwanise kukuudza huwandu hwetraffic hwaari kuunza kune webhusaiti. Imi mose munoda zvikuru Africa, uye mese munofarira zvikuru The Corporate Council on Africa, uye tose tinofara zvikuru kuva nesu mutungamiri uye CEO, Stephen Hayes. Ari muWashington, DC achangodzoka kubva kuKenya neEthiopia uye, sezvineiwo, ndakanzwa achangobva kudya manheru naHillary Clinton, saka tichamubvunza nezvazvo, zvakare. Ndinokutendai, Stephen, nekubatana nesu zvakare.
Stephen Hayes: Ndinogara ndichifara kuna Sandy; zvinofadza.
Sandy: Chokwadi zvakanaka kuva newe pachirongwa. Maita basa guru pakutidzidzisa uye kutivaraidza chaizvo, zvakare, paAfrica. Pane zvakawanda zvekutaura nezvazvo. Iyi kondinendi yakakura, uye ndanga ndichingotarisa peji redu repamba pa TravelTalkRADIO.com. Isu takaridza "Yakanakisa ye" show kwete kare kare uye, chokwadi zvakakwana, wanga uripo pamusoro pechati. Saka iwe wataurwa, ndinofunga une zvikamu zvitatu zvakasiyana pane peji rekutanga, makorokoto!
Hayes: Zvakanaka, zvakanaka!
Sandy: Hongu, uye ndinodawo kutaura kuti tichava nezvinyorwa zveizvi saka kana iwe uchida kuzviverenga, tichava nazvo, zvakare. Sezvineiwo, gamuchirai kumusha. Wanga uchangobva kuKenya kuEthiopia?
Hayes: Right, ndanga ndiri pamusangano wepagore weAGOA, unova Africa Growth and Opportunity Act. Isu tanga tiri chikamu chakakosha cheizvozvo; isu takatungamira iyo private sector forum. Musangano weAGOA unotova musangano wemakurukota, makurukota ose ezvekutengeserana kubva muAfrica yose, pamwe nenhumwa dzepamusoro dzeAmerica. Panyaya iyi, nhumwa dzemuAmerica dzaitungamirwa naAmai Hillary Clinton.
Sandy: saka wanga uripo, ndanzwa kuti wadya naye?
Hayes: Zvakanaka, takadya naye kudya kwemanheru asati aenda. Anga afonera gumi, ndinofunga, vapi vamazano kana chero chaunoda kudaidza, kuti vadye naye asati abva kuWashington kuDhipatimendi reHurumende. Saka, takava nekudya kwemanheru kwemaawa maviri kuti tikurukure nezverwendo rwake rwekuAfrica uye nezvenyaya idzo mumwe nemumwe wedu aifunga kuti dzaifanira kutaurwa paaiva ikoko uye dzaaifanira kunyatsogadzirisa. Saka, kwaive kudya kwemanheru kwakanaka kwazvo, uye ndakaitawo rombo rakanaka rekuva nechigaro chiri padivi pake. Saka, kwaive kudya kwemanheru kwakanakisa.
Sandy: Zvakanaka, uye wamuwana achiyevedza?
Hayes: Hongu, ndakazviita. Ndakamuwana ari munhu akasununguka chaizvo. Ndakanzwisisa nhanho yerutsigiro yaanayo, uye ndinofunga achaita Munyori mukuru weNyika.
Sandy: Zvinoita sekudaro. Munoziva, chandinoona chinonakidza [ndechekuti] taive neMutungamiri Obama nguva pfupi yadarika kuGhana. Isu tine, chokwadi, Secretary wedu weNyika Clinton muKenya. Zvinoita sekunge kune kutariswa kwakawanda kuAfrica izvozvi.
Hayes: Zvakanaka, ndinofunga kuti panofanira kunge paine marudzi ese ezvikonzero. Secretary of State akaenda kunyika nomwe, uye ndinoziva kuti akataura kuti akanga akazvipira zvikuru kuAfrica kudarika kunyange asati atanga rwendo, mushure mokunge adzoka. Chokwadi pane simba rinoda. Wese munhu anoziva kuti, zvakanaka, vanhu vazhinji vanoziva, kuti Africa ichatipa inosvika makumi maviri neshanu muzana yesimba redu rinoda. Saka, izvo zvinoita kuti Africa ive yakakosha kwatiri mune zvehupfumi chete. Asi, ndinofunga kupihwa hupfumi uye matambudziko atinawo muhupfumi hwedu izvozvi, ndinofunga kuti Africa inopa imwe yemisika mitsva yakanakisa chero kupi zvako pasirese, uye ndinofunga hukama hukuru hweUS-Africa hwebhizinesi hungabatsira nyika dzese. yeAfrica nenyika 25 dziri pairi, pamwe chete neUnited States.
Sandy: Unoziva iwe wakati 25 muzana yesimba ichabva kuAfrica. Ndizvo kuUS here?
Stephen Hayes: KuUS. Izvo ndizvo.
Sandy: Zvinonakidza. Zvichadaro sei? Ichave musolar here kana…?
Hayes: Kwete, ndinoreva maererano nemafuta. Mafuta edu anodiwa… zvikamu makumi maviri nezvishanu kubva muzana zviri kubva kuAfrica. Uye saka, izvo zvinoita kuti kugovera uku kuve kwakakosha. Zvinogoneka kuti izvo zvinogona kukura nekufamba kwenguva, zvakare. Kunyanya, zvakare, kana tikaenda kune gasi rechisikigo. Africa ine zviwanikwa zvakakura mumatura mugasi rechisikigo. Saka, isu tichave tichivimba neAfrica kune simba redu rekuda kwemakumi emakore akati wandei.
Sandy: Unoziva, ndakaona pandakati "solar," handizive kuti [munhu] angatamisa sei solar, asi zvirokwazvo simba rezuva richave rakakura ipapo, zvinoita.
Hayes: Panyaya yekuda kwesimba reAfrica pachayo, kwatove nekuedza kwesimba rezuva. Zvichiri kunetsa kudzikisa mutengo wesimba rezuva kana zvichienzaniswa nemamwe mafomu echinyakare, asi ndinofunga kuti inofanirwa kuve chikamu cheramangwana, kunyanya muAfrica. Saka hongu, pane mukana wakakura kune avo vanhu vari kuisa mari musimba rezuva, kunyanya maererano neAfrica. Asi simba reAfrica richange rakakurisa zvakare, saka kuti vakwanise kutenga simba, vanenge vachifanira kutengesa magetsi maererano ne[a] kupihwa mafuta echinyakare, vozoisa mune mamwe marudzi esimba kune avo. kushandiswa.
Sandy: Paunofunga nenzira iyoyo, mukati memakore gumi, kondinendi inogona kunge yakasimba kwazvo, handizvo here?
Hayes: Zvakanaka, ndinofunga mune zvehupfumi ikondinendi inongova nehukuru hwakakura, maererano nechero chinhu. Panyaya yevateereri vako vega eindastiri yekufambisa, zvinongopfuura mikana mikuru [iyo] iripo mune chero nyika. Itiopiya ine mukana mukuru wekushanya usingabatike uye zvichingodaro. Kugona kwehupfumi hweAfrica kwakakura, asi vachiri kufanira kukunda zvipingamupinyi zvishoma kuti vasangane nazvo.
Sandy: Chokwadi. Isu tinoshanda zvakanyanya neEthiopian Airlines, uye handizive kana iwe wakave nemukana wekubhururuka nawo, asi ngowani yangu inoenda kwavari Ivo vakanyatso chengeta iyo nyika pamwe chete, kugadzira uye kuchengetedza nzira kuenda neakawanda. yevafambi, mukuita chokwadi chekuti matenga akavhurika zvirinani munyika yavo, arambe akavhurika. Une dambudziko here paunofamba uchienda kuAfrica uchiuya nekubuda?
Hayes: Kwete, kwete chaizvo, sezvo ndanga ndichienda kumachiteshi makuru, asi kana uri kuedza kuenda [kubva] kune imwe nyika kuenda kune imwe, zvakanyanya kuoma. Ndinofara kuti wataura zvawakaita pamusoro peEthiopian Airlines; Ndinofunga ndevamwe veakanakisa muAfrica. Ethiopian Airlines, Kenya Airlines, neSouth African Airways vese inhengo dzeThe Corporate Council, uye ndinofunga kuti ese ari kufambiswa zvakanaka, asi ndinofunga kunyanya, nguva pfupi yadarika, Ethiopian Airlines ingori ndege inotungamirwa chaizvo. Ndinofunga vachangobva kuhwina mubairo mukuru muLondon…
Sandy: Ah zvakanaka! Kana wakamboenda kuAfrica, unonyatsoziva zvandiri kureva. Zvinobvarura tambo dzemoyo wako. Chinhu chinongosvika kwauri. Inokura pauri. Unotanga kuzvida, uye hapana kudzoka shure. Ndave nerwendo rwangu rwechisere kuAfrica. Uye tiri kutaura naStephen Hayes. Stephen, unofanira kunge wakave nei, 50, 100 nzendo kuenda kuAfrica zvino?
Hayes: Ingangove pedyo ne50, ndizvozvo, chokwadi makore gumi aya.
Sandy: Zvinoshamisa. VaStephen Hayes ndivo mutungamiri uye CEO we[The] Corporate Council on Africa. Ari muWashington DC. Achangodzoka kubva kuKenya neEthiopia. Tanga tichitaura zvishoma pamusoro, kwete chete rwendo rwake ikoko, asi zvimwe zvezvinhu zviri kuitika muAfrica, kwete chete mukushanya nekufamba, asi mune ese maindasitiri nemikana [izvo] zvinoshamisa. Ikozvino, wave kugadzirira musangano mukuru uye unongoitika makore maviri ega ega, saka unofanirwa kunge uchinakidzwa nazvo.
Hayes: Zvakanaka, kufara ndeimwe nzira yekuisa nayo. Kutya, kutya, hongu. Ndiwo musangano mukuru wezvemabhizimusi weUS-Africa werudzi rwupi zvarwo uye tinotarisira, nekuti uri muWashington DC rwendo rwuno, tinotarisira vatori vechikamu vanosvika zviuru zviviri - vemabhizimisi vanobva muUnited States yose neAfrica. Takatove neVanyori veCabinet vaviri vakasimbiswa nezveizvi: Secretary of Commerce, the US trade rep. Ndine tarisiro huru yekuti tichava neSecretary of State uye, ndinovimba, tichave neMutungamiriri weUnited States zvakare pano. Tine vatungamiri veAfrica vangangosvika gumi vakatosimbisa izvi, zvakare. Saka, chirongwa chikuru mune zvehupfumi, zvematongerwo enyika, uye zvemagariro, zvakare. Ichi ndicho chiitiko chakakosha chebhizinesi maererano nehukama hwehupfumi hweUS-Africa. Kana paine munhu anofarira [kudyara] muAfrica munzvimbo dzakati wandei, kungave kushanya, simba, zvivakwa, hutano, chero huwandu hwezvikamu, saka ivo vanofanirwa chaizvo kunge vari pamusangano uyu.
Sandy: Zvino, izvi zvichave pakupera kwaSeptember, handizvo?
Hayes: Hongu. Gunyana 29-Gumiguru 1. Asi, iyi ichave iri svondo remusangano munzira dzakawanda. Pamberi pemusangano we28th uye 29th, tiri kuita kupatsanura izvo zvatinodaidza kuti "hapana-kukwikwidza" misangano: Kuita Bhizinesi muEthiopia, Kuita Bhizinesi muNigeria, uye Kuita Bhizinesi muAngola. Half day workshops. Vachasununguka kune ani zvake anenge abhadharwa kuti apinde mumusangano. Saka, izvo zvichave zvakakosha uye, mushure, isu tiri kuita nekukoka-chete nhaurirano dzemativi maviri neSouth Africa neNigeria. Mumusangano wacho pachawo, tichava nemisangano makumi matanhatu neina, nhamba dzematare edzimhosva uye, hongu, hurukuro huru kubva kune zvatinotarisira kuti achave Mutungamiriri weUnited States, asi zvechokwadi kubva padanho rake remakurukota, pamwe chete. vamwe vatungamiri venyika dzemuAfrica.
Sandy: Dai wanga uri kambani iri kunze kweThe Corporate Council muAfrica, uye ukaona kuti mukana wacho wanga wakanyanya muAfrica, ndeipi chikamu chaungaisa chigunwe chako?
Hayes: Ini ndinofunga kuti chikamu chebhizimusi rekurima uye chikamu chekushanya [ndidzo] nzvimbo mbiri uko makambani ekuAmerica anogona kunyatso batsirikana [uye] kwaanowanawo mukana wekufananidza. Nyika yega yega muAfrica inoda zvikamu zvakasimba zvebhizimusi rekurima. Nyika dzese muAfrica dzinogona kuburitsa zvekurima, uye isu tinofanirwa kusimbisa hukama hwekutengeserana, uye ndinofunga pane basa chairo uye kudiwa kweUS agro-bhizinesi. Ini ndinofunga kushanya ndeimwe nharaunda iyo ingori isina muganhu kugona, nyika nenyika. Chinonyanyoda kuti chiitike, ndechekuti zvivakwa zvinofanirwa kuvakwa kuita kuti kushanya kushande uye kukwanisa kuendesa zvirimwa kumusika uye ndiro rimwe rematambudziko makuru eAfrica, zvivakwa nekushaikwa kwazvo, uye zvakawanda. musangano wedu uchange wakanangana nekugadzirisa zvivakwa izvozvo.
Sandy: Unoziva, zvinonakidza kwazvo pawakataura nezveAngola, nekuti ndaiva kuAngola uye, chokwadi, ivo vabuda muhondo yemakore makumi matatu pamwe makore mana kana mashanu apfuura. Saka, vachiri kutsva, asi pandakanga ndiripo, takanga tine mapurofesa kubva kuHawaii aitaura nekudzidzisa vamwe vevarimi nezvekurima mananasi, uye zvainakidza kuona izvozvo. Zvino vaive nerimwe boka ipapo raishandura zvimbambaira kuita mizambiringa uye vakaridaidza kuti "migodhi kuva mizambiringa." Zvinhu zvakawanda zvakadai zviri kuitika, huh?
Hayes: Zvakanaka, Angola ndeimwe yenyika dziri kuwedzera, uye haisi tsaona kuti Secretary of State akaita izvozvo parwendo rwake, zvakare. Inyika hombe ine vanhu vanosvika miriyoni gumi nematatu chete, saka kune nyika inenge isina muganho wekushandisa, kunyanya, mukurima. Zvakare, Angola ichave yedu mugadziri mukuru weoiri muAfrica, ichipfuura Nigeria munguva pfupi yapfuura. Zvakanyanya kukosha kuUnited States uye ingori nyika ine mukana mukuru iri kutanga, ichangotanga, kuita zvinhu nenzira kwayo.
Sandy: Wow, zvinonakidza kwazvo. Munoziva, takave nhengo [yeThe Corporate Council on Africa] nguva pfupi yadarika, uye ndiri kungopeputswa nezvandinowana seruzivo mazuva ese, Stephen une vashandi vakanyanya.
Hayes: Ndinoda. Ndinodada nevashandi ava. Ini ndinoda kuudza vanhu muWashington [kuti] ndichaisa mudonzvo uyu [kumusoro] kune chero munhu. Mushandi akazvipira zvikuru. Ichiri mudiki ine [vanhu] vane tarenda uye vakazvipira chaizvo kuhukama hweUS-Africa. Ndinofunga ndine rombo rakanaka. [Ndine] maRhodes Scholars maviri pavashandi zvakare, uye saka ibasa rakangwara.
Sandy: Ndizvozvo. Uye ikozvino iwewo waisa kunze, uye izvi ndezvenhengo, uye isu tichataura nezvehutano, asi ini ndaida kungozviseka ndichiti zuva rega rega tinowana The Corporate Council paAfrica nhau dzemazuva ese, uye inopararira mhiri. kondinendi yose. Uye zuva nezuva, rinozadzwa nenhau. Iwe unoita basa guru pane izvozvo, zvakare.
Hayes: Maita basa. Zvakanaka, Daily Clips inongotarisa nezve bhizinesi uye sezvaunoziva, Sandy, hauone chero izvo mumapepanhau. Kune huwandu hukuru hwezvibvumirano zvebhizinesi zviri kuitwa muAfrica izvo nyika ino isingazive nezvayo. Uye, ini ndinofunga kuti yedu Yezuva nezuva Clips yave yakanakisa sosi paruzivo rwebhizinesi paAfrica munyika ino.
Sandy: Ndiyo yakanakisisa. Ini ndinoda [kutaura] zvakare, [nezve chokwadi chekuti] unoita musangano wevhidhiyo. Mangwana ndipo patichaita musangano wevhidhiyo wemumiriri weGhana?
Hayes: Ndi28, China inotevera, ndinofunga ndiyo. Asi hongu, mwedzi wega wega tinoita musangano wevhidhiyo wehupenyu hwenhengo dzedu nemumiriri weUS akasarudzwa muAfrica. Inhaurirano isiri-rekodhi pamusoro penyaya dzingangove nenhengo dzedu uye zvakare zviri kuitika munyika iyoyo, uye inobatsira nhengo dzedu kuita sarudzo dziri nani dzekudyara.
Sandy: Hongu. Ngatitaurei zvishoma nezvenhengo uye ndiani anogona kuve nhengo, uye unofanirwa kuve nhengo here kuti uve pamusangano watanga tichitaura nezvawo [uko] mukupera kwaGunyana?
Hayes: Ngatitangei nereverse. Kwete, haufanire kunge uri nhengo. Ungofanire kukona kubhadhara. Nhengo, sezviri pachena, dzinowana mitengo yakaderera pazviitiko zvakadaro, asi musangano wakavhurika kune vese vanofarira zvechokwadi Africa uye vanofarira zvechokwadi mikana yekudyara. Kana iwe wakakomba nezve Africa, unogona kuchengetedza mari yakawanda nekuenda kumusangano. Uye, ndinotaura izvozvo nekuti, isingasviki tikiti rendege kuenda kuAfrica, unogona kusangana chero nhamba ye, ingangoita [n] isingaverengeki nhamba yeVatungamiriri veAfrica, Makurukota eAfrica, vanoita sarudzo, vanhu vebhizinesi, [uye] vangango batirana navo kubva kuAmerica. . Chete hazvo, kana uri serious, uyezve kana uri, ndinofunga ndiyo sarudzo yakanakisa yaungaite.
Sandy: Unoziva kana uchitaura nezvekuuya kwemaminister, ndinoreva kuti, vanhu ava vanhu vecabinet-level vachange varipo, uye ndingafunga kuti unogona kushamwaridzana navo pachako.
Hayes: Hongu, hongu unoita. Chero ani zvake muzvinabhizimisi anogona kugara ipapo [uye] kutaura nemumwe wemakurukota ehurumende. Ehe, iwo makabati. Ndiyo tsanangudzo yegurukota rehurumende yeAfrica inhengo yedare remakurukota. Uye, tichava nevashumiri vangangosvika zana vanobva kunzvimbo dzakasiyana siyana nenyika nemasekita. Maministries of Trade achange aripo zvechokwadi, Makurukota ehutano, Maminikota ekushanya, nezvimwewo.
Sandy: Zvinoshamisa. Ngatimbotaura zvishoma nezvenhengo, pane here maitiro aunotarisa kuti uve nhengo?
Hayes: Zvakanaka, chaizvo, kana iwe uri bhizinesi uye uine hofisi muUnited States, kuvepo kwenyama. Mune mamwe mazwi, haufanirwe kunge uri kambani yeUS, se, asi kana uine huvepo hwemuviri muUnited States. Semuenzaniso, Standard Bank yeAfrica inhengo yeCCA. Ndiro bhanga guru muAfrica, South Africa-based, asi rine mahofisi muUnited States, saka rinogona kubatana neCCA, uye rakaita. Saka, nhengo ndeyemabhizinesi. Ndinofunga kuti munhu anogona kuzvizivisa bhizinesi, asi anotofanira kubhadhara muyero wenhengo sechero rimwe bhizinesi.
Sandy: Kunze kwekutora zvimedu, zvimedu zveCCA mazuva ese, uye musangano wevhidhiyo, pane chimwe chinhu here chaungawedzera kunhengo?
Hayes: Isu tinoita zvinopfuura 100 zviitiko pagore. Tine boka rinoshanda rekuchengetedza. Iwe haufanirwe kunge uri muWashington kuti upinde izvozvo. Iwe unogona kuzviita ne teleconference kana kufona-mukati uye uvepo. Asi, tine boka rinoshanda rekuchengetedza, tine boka rinoshanda pamusoro pezvivakwa zvinosangana pamwedzi, tine musangano weindasitiri yehutano mwedzi wega wega, [uye] zvichingodaro, [uye] makonferensi. Isu tinewo masevhisi ekutsvagisa. Kana nhengo ichida tsvakurudzo pane imwe nzvimbo yemusika, saka tine vashandi vanozonyora bepa iroro, [uye] vachashanda pavari nekuvapa mazano. Kunyangwe kune makuru emakambani, ivo vanowanzove nekunetseka kuwana misangano nevanhu. Tichamisikidza [somuenzaniso], kana iwe uchida musangano neAmbassador yeNigeria, uye uine nyaya yakanaka yayo, tobva tamisa musangano iwoyo. Nhume dzinowanzotiremekedza uye dzinoteerera kwatiri, uye tinogona kupinda zviri nyore kupfuura makambani mazhinji emisangano yakadai. Kana iwe uchida mazano ekuenda kunyika, unoda mazano ekuti ndiani waungasangana naye, isu tichakuwanira iwe, zvakare. Zvikasadaro, nekusajoinha CCA, uye kuyedza kuzviita iwe pachako, unogona kuenda, toti, chero nyika uye usina kana kapfungwa kekuti inoshanda sei, ndiani kuona, [kana] kupi kuenda. Unotambisa nguva yakawanda uye mari yakawanda. Ini ndinoti kana iwe uchifarira Africa, kuisa mari muAfrica, nhengo yeCCA ndeimwe yeakanakisa mabhegi aungave nawo. Asi kana usiri kuzotishandisa, zvakadaro, uri kutambisa mari yako. Saka, kana mumwe munhu akabatana nesu, anofanira kuzvipira kutishandisa.
Sandy: Chandinoda pamusoro pazvo [ndechokuti] zvakafanana nekuva newawakaroorana naye pasina kugovana zvakaenzana.
Hayes: Zvakanaka, ndinofunga ndizvo. Mudonzvo wakawedzerwa. Zvakachipa zvakanyanya pane zvaungabhadhara munhu mumwe chete wevashandi kuti akuitire izvo makumi matatu evashandi vedu vanogona kukuitira.
Sandy: Hongu. Wakarurama chose. Uri kuenda kuAfrica zvakare musangano usati wasvika pakupera kwaGunyana?
Hayes: Kwete. Ini hapana kwandichafamba. Ini handisi kutora zororo kusvika mushure memusangano.
Sandy: Zvakanaka, ndanga ndichikubvunza, pese pandinenge ndichitaura newe, wanga [uchangobva] kuenda kuAfrica uye idzi hadzisi nzendo pfupi. Ndinoreva, yakakura kupfuura kuenda kuLondon kana kuParis. Izvi zvakakura. Semufambi, uye ini ndaingoda kupinda mumusoro mako pane icho chikamu chayo, chero rudzi [rwe] zano raungave uine kune vafambi vari kuenda kuAfrica?
Hayes: Zvakanaka, unoziva, iva nemoyo murefu. Ndiro rinenge riri zano rekutanga. Nzvimbo dzendege hadzina kufanana semuenzaniso. Vati wandei zvishoma. Iwe unongofanirwa kuve nemoyo murefu asiwo, zvakare, gadzirira pachine nguva. Ita shuwa kuti une munhu wekusangana newe panhandare yendege, kwete zvakanyanya nekuda kwezvikonzero zvekuchengetedza, asi nekuda kwezvikonzero zvekureruka uye kukwanisa kufamba-famba zvakanyanya. Saka, iwe unofanirwa kugadzirira zvakanyanya. Iwe haugone kungobhururuka uchipinda muguta zviri nyore muAfrica nenzira imwechete yaungabhururuke uchipinda muLondon uye uchitenderedza nzira yako. Zvinonyanya kunakidza kana ukadaro, hongu, asi zvinogona kunge zviri mafaro kupfuura zvaunoda kana zvaunoda.
Sandy: Zvakanaka, uye kana iwe uripo kune bhizinesi, unoda kusvika kune bhizinesi, saka ndicho chimwe chikamu chazvo zvakare.
Hayes: Ndizvozvo, ndizvozvo.
Sandy: Zvakanaka, senguva dzose, takanakidzwa chaizvo nenguva yedu newe. Unogona here kutenda kuti zvinoenda nekukurumidza?
Hayes: Ndakadaro.
Sandy: Ehe, tinewo, uye tichakukwidza mwedzi unouya. Tiri kutarisira kuva nemi muWashington DC mukupera kwaGunyana pamusangano uyu. Tinokoka munhu wese arikuterera kuti atarise, huya kuwebhusaiti, batanidza kuChirongwa cheSvondo rino, uchaona mufananidzo waStephen, chinongedzo muCCA, [The] Corporate Council on Africa uye, hongu, iwe uchawana rumwe ruzivo nezve iyi summit inoshamisa. Uye zvinoitika chete makore maviri ega ega, saka usaverengera izvozvo. Unofanira kuipinda nesu. Ndatenda, Stephen. Tichataura newe nekukurumidza.
Hayes: Ok, thanks Sandy.
Sandy: maita basa.
