Kubvunzurudzwa kwakasarudzika naSir James R. Mancham, Mutungamiri wekutanga weSeychelles

Kukura kuri kuita magwaro epasi rose eMutungamiriri wekutanga weRepublic yeSeychelles kwaunza kudiwa kwebvunzurudzo kuti unzwisise zviri nani uye kutenda zvinomiririrwa naSir James Mancham. Hurukuro iyi yakaitwa naRaymond St.Ange akamiririra Nhasi kubva kuSeychelles.

NHASI: Changamire James, nhaurwa yedhorobha mumazuva mashoma apfuura kwave kudomwa kwenyu neMutungamiri Michel kuti amirire hurumende yake nevanhu veSeychelles paDiamond Jubilee yeHer Majness Queen Elizabeth II. Ndedzipi pfungwa dzako dzauri kutaura?

SIR JAMES R. MANCHAM: Ndakanga ndichifamba mukati meU.SA pandakafonerwa neGurukota rinoona nezvekunze kwenyika, VaJean-Paul Adam, vachindizivisa kuti Mutungamiriri anga akangwarira kundidoma kuti ndivamiririre ivo, hurumende, uye. vanhu veSeychelles pachiitiko ichi chenhoroondo muLondon. Sarudzo iyi yairatidza hukuru hwepamusoro uye kukura kwezvematongerwo enyika paMutungamiri Michel. Idi rinozivikanwa kuti coup d'état muna 1977 yakaitika pandakanga ndiri muLondon kunopinda Queen's Silver Jubilee. Mambokadzi Elizabeth II ndimambokadzi wandagara ndine ruremekedzo rukuru uye rudo kwaari. Sarudzo yeMutungamiri Michel yekundiona ndichitora chikamu mumhemberero yeDiamond Jubilee inofanirwa kutorwa semupiro wakanaka kune izvo zvinogona kutsanangurwa se "nzira yekupora."

NHASI: Pane chauri kuona here chezvematongerwo enyika muchirongwa ichi?

JRM: Mutungamiri Michel imhuka yezvematongerwo enyika, uye vari kuramba vachiratidza kuva nyanzvi mune zvematongerwo enyika. Mukundidoma kuti ndimumiririre, ari kutumira mhiri meseji yatiri kushanda nhasi muSeychelles mukati memweya we "entente" uye kubatana kwenyika. Ari kuratidzawo kuda kushandisa mweya weSeychelles Kutanga. Vanhu vazhinji vaisatarisira kuti Mutungamiri Michel vasimuke kusvika padanho rehutungamiriri uye vakafunga kuti akarerwa pasi pemumvuri wemudzvanyiriri, angadai akaona zvisingaite kuve munhu wake, asi Mutungamiri Michel anoita kunge akatsunga. kusiya nhaka yakagadzikana shure. Kutsunga uku kwakakosha, sezvo kuchakanganisa zvematongerwo enyika zveSeychelles nhasi uye nzira iri mberi.

NHASI: Zvichida zvakakosha sekuenda kuLondon kwaive zviitiko zvako zvenguva pfupi yapfuura muCairo uchipupurira sarudzo dzeMutungamiri muEgypt. Pane mhinduro here?

JRM: Ndakabayiwa mwoyo zvikuru nekukokwa kwandakaitwa kubva kuMutungamiriri weAfrican Union kuti nditungamirire boka revanhu makumi maviri nevana kubva kuAfrican Union kuzoongorora sarudzo dzemutungamiri wenyika yeEgypt. Kuva chikamu chechikwata iropafadzo pachayo, asi kuva mutungamiri wechikwata kubvuma kuvimba uye kufunga kwakanyanya.

"Nekuda kweruzivo rwenyu rwakakura uye kuzvipira mukusimbaradza demokrasi nerunyararo mukondinendi ndinoda kukumbira nemutsa kuti Mukuru wenyu atungamirire African Observer Mission muEgypt," Mr. Jean Ping, African Union Commissioner vakanyora.

Apo Vakuru veEgypt vakati kwete kupfungwa yekugamuchira boka rezvicherechedzo kubva kuAU uye panzvimbo pacho vakatumira kokero yechapupu chimwe kubva kusangano, ndakanga ndagadzirira kugamuchira dambudziko apo Mutungamiriri weAU akandikoka.

Sarudzo iyi yaive chiitiko chakasiyana munhoroondo yeEgypt. Mamiriyoni makumi mashanu nemaviri evavhoti vakanyoresa muhuwandu hwevanhu vanopfuura mamirioni makumi mapfumbamwe kekutanga [vakapihwa] mukana wekusarudza Mutungamiri wavo zvakananga.

Mukuongorora kwekupedzisira, mukati memufananidzo mukuru, ndakaona kuti sarudzo dzakange dzakarongeka, dzakajeka, uye dzakarurama - maonero akagoverwa neMutungamiri Jimmy Carter weCarter Center uye aimbova Mutungamiri weMauritius Cassam Uteem weElectoral Institute of Sustainable. Democracy.

NHASI: Usati wabhururuka kuenda kuCairo, waive, chokwadi, pakushanya kuUSA. Chii chaiitika ipapo?

JRM: Ini ndakatanga kuve muenzi weHoover's Institute of War, Revolution, uye Runyararo yeStanford University kutora chikamu mu "Think-Tank" - "Global Hotspots, Insiders Briefings." Sangano rakanga rafunga kukoka vamwe vanhu vakapihwa mubairo weGusi Peace Prize kuti vataurirane neboka revagari vemuUS vane simba uye vane simba pamusoro penyaya dzakasiyana dzakakosha pasi rose. Ini, hongu, ndakatora mukana uyu kuunza zvakare nyaya yekushaikwa kweiyo Embassy yeUS muSeychelles, kunyangwe iyo US yakaramba "yakasimba kwazvo" sekuenderera mberi nekumisa drones inodzorwa kure pano nevaviri vavo. nguva pfupi yadarika yakabondera panhandare yendege yedu yepanyika.

Ndakataura kuti apo kushanya kwengarava dzeUS Naval kunogara kuchigamuchirwa, pasina huvepo hwakakodzera hwemumiriri muPort Victoria, pakanga paine ratidziro yemufananidzo we "Gun Boat's Diplomacy" yakavakirwa pahuchenjeri hwekuti "simba rakarurama." Ini ndinodana kuUnited States kuti ipe Seychelles ruremekedzo rwepasi rose rwainokodzera uye kuziva kuti "hapana nyika idiki kana yakakomberedzwa negungwa." Pandaitaura, aimbova Musoro weFBI akavhiringidzika uye aimbove US Naval Admiral akanyora manotsi. Ndakavaudza kuti ndakanga ndaronga kusangana neMutevedzeri wemunyori weAmerica anoona nezveAfrica – VaJohnny Carson muWashington, DC, kuti ndizeye nyaya iyi zvakare kubazi reAmerica.

NHASI: Saka chii chakaitika muWashington, DC?

JRM: Sezvineiwo, handina kuwana nguva yekutora chikamu muforamu yakanga yakarongwa naVaGrover Norquist - mumiriri wekuAmerica, mutsigiri wezvematongerwo enyika, uye muvambi uye Mutungamiriri weAmericans for Tax Reform - vakaronga zuva randakanga ndiri muguta guru reUS, asi ini. akawana nguva yekudya kwemasikati neshamwari yenguva refu, VaArnaud de Borchgrave, vandakashamwaridzana navo mumakore makumi matanhatu apo vaive Mutori wenhau Mukuru we "Newsweek," uye munyori pamwe chete webhuku rinotengeswa zvakanyanya, "The Spike." De Borchgrave nhasi ndiye Senior Adviser weCentre of Strategic uye International Studies.

Sekureva kwaOsborn Elliott - aimbova Mupepeti-Mukuru we "Newsweek" - De Borchgrave akaita basa munhau dzepasi rose dzinozivikanwa kune mumwe mutori wenhau. Akakwanisa kutora mafungiro evatungamiriri venyika vakawanda. ... Pasinei nehukama hwepedyo nevagadziri vakuru vemitemo, haana kumbobvira azvibatanidza nechero divi rekupokana uye nenzira iyi akaita zvakakosha kurunyararo nekunzwisisa kwenyika.

Pashure pezvokudya zvemasikati naArnaud, ndakaenda kuDhipatimendi Rehurumende kunoonana noMutevedzeri woMunyori weHurumende, Johnny Carson. Ndakaudza muchinda uyu pachena kuti handina kufadzwa nenharo yekuti US haikwanise kuva nemumiriri muSeychelles nekuda kwekunetsa kwebhajeti - ndichiratidza kuti kunyangwe Cuba yaive neEmbassy yakazara muPort Victoria. Ndakataura kuti maitiro eUSA kuSeychelles akapa Mutungamiri Hu Jintao chikonzero paakataura pachena nezve [hukama] hweUS-Seychelles, kuti China yaisazozviratidza se "shamwari yemamiriro ekunze." Ndichikakavadzana sezvandamboita kare kuti "hapana nyika diki kana yakakomberedzwa negungwa," ndakatorawo gakava rakaburitswa neaimbove Mumiriri weUS John Price yekuti sei mamiriro ezvinhu aripo ekuti Seychelles ifukidzwe kubva kuMauritius aive nedambudziko uye achiratidza. kusaremekedza uchangamire hwedu.

NHASI: Iwe unofunga kuti zvikumbiro zvako zvine chekuita neMubatsiri Secretary Carson?

JRM: Panguva yemusangano wedu, Mutevedzeri weMunyori weNyika akandiimbira rwiyo rwekare rwumwe chete rwekunetsa kwebhajeti, kunyangwe ndakanzwa kuti akange abatwa nekukanganiswa nemakakatanwa angu.

Kubva pandakadzokera kuSeychelles, ndakasangana naDr. Reuben Brigety II, vanove Deputy Assistant Secretary of State muBureau of African Affairs, vakandiudza kuti zvichitevera kusangana kwandakaita nashefu wavo, vakanga vatumwa kuSeychelles kunoongorora mubvunzo uyu. yekuvapo kweU. diplomatic pasi. Dr. Brigety vakaperekedzwa neMutungamiriri Michael Baker, US Defence Attaché yeMauritius, Seychelles, Madagascar, neComoros, iri kuMadagascar, uye VaTroy Fitrell, US Chargé d'Affaires kuMauritius.

Ndinogona kungogumisa kuti chimwe chinhu chinofanira kunge chiri kufamba uye kuti US yakakura zvakakwana kuti igamuchire pane kukanganisa kwaitwa uye kugadzirisa mamiriro acho ezvinhu. Sarudzo yekuvharisa Embassy muSeychelles yaive "penny yakachenjera pondo benzi" sarudzo, tichifunga nezveSeychelles inoratidza hunyanzvi hwekuita uye kuva pedyo naDiego Garcia. Maonero angu kuti Mutungamiri Michel neGurukota Adam vanotenda kuedza kwangu panyaya iyi.

NHASI: Uchave uchidzokera kuSeychelles zvakananga kubva kuLondon mushure memhemberero dzeJubilee?

JRM: Ndingadai ndakada kuti hongu. Zvisinei, ndichabva muLondon ndakananga kuLusaka, Zambia, kumusangano weKomiti yeVakuru veCOMESA, sezvamunoziva, Common Market for Eastern and Southern Africa. Nyaya dzakakosha dziri mudariro, dzinosanganisira nhaurirano pamusoro pechirongwa chegutsaruzhinji, hutongi hwejekerere, uye hupfumi hwehondo, izvo zviri kukanganisa nyika yeAfrica. Pava nekanguva kubva pandakabvuma kuenda kuLusaka kumusangano iwoyo uye ndinonzwa kuti handikwanise kuregedza sangano panguva ino yekupedzisira.

NHASI: Ungave muSeychelles kumhemberero dzedu dzeZuva reNyika musi waChikumi 18?

JRM: Hongu, ndingadai ndichangosvika, asi mavhiki maviri gare gare ndichakwira ndege kuenda kuBrussels kwandakakokwa kuRound-Table Conference Luncheon neAmerican European Community Association apo muenzi achataura VaDavid O'Sullivan. , Chief Operating Officer weEuropean External Action Service, ane dingindira richange riri "The New Diplomacy: Zvinangwa, Zvakabudirira, uye Kuwedzera Kukosha."

Zvechokwadi, VaDavid O'Sullivan vakanga vari Munyori Mukuru weEuropean Commission pakati paJune 2000 naNovember 2005. EEAS, iyo yavari Chief Operating Officer, inochengetedza hukama hwezvematongerwo enyika pamwe nenyika dzose pasi rose. Iine hukama hwekudyidzana nevatambi vakakosha vepasirese, uye [iri] kudyidzana zvakanyanya nemasimba ari kusimukira pasi rose uye yakasaina zvibvumirano zvemubatanidzwa wenyika mbiri nenyika dzinoverengeka. Iro rendezvous yakakosha, isingagoni kupotsa.