Kubatana neni iko zvino kubva kuSharm el-Sheikh, Egypt, ndiUSAID Administrator, aimbove Mumiriri weUN, Samantha Power - aine Mutungamiriri paGlobal Climate Summit [2022 United Nations Climate Change Conference, aka. COP27]. Ndinokutendai zvikuru Ambassador Simba nekuva nesu. Mutungamiri Biden vachiuya kumusangano weClimate Summit mushure mekunge US nedzimwe nyika dzakabudirira dzashoropodzwa nepasirese nekuda kwekukonzera. kuchinja kwemamiriro ekunze. Mutungamiri achitsanangura zviri kuitwa neUS. Iwe unonetsekana here kuti kana maRepublican akatora kutonga kweCongress, ichi chingave chikamu chekupedzisira chekuchinja kwemamiriro ekunze kune iyi manejimendi?
ADMINISTRATOR SAMANTHA SIMBA: Zvakanaka, chekutanga regai nditaure, Andrea, kuti Mutungamiriri paakauya kuCOP gore rapfuura - kuMusangano weMamiriro ekunze gore rapfuura - akakwanisa kutaura nezve America ichidzoka, ichidzoka kuChibvumirano cheParis, ichidzoka kuzoedza kudzivirira zvakanyanya. emissions apo pakange pave nekudzoserwa kwakawanda kwemirau yaive yakaiswa mumakore aObama. Gore rino, ari kuuya akawana mari inosvika mabhiriyoni mazana matatu nemakumi matanhatu nemasere ekudyara mukurwisa kushanduka kwemamiriro ekunze. Uye iwe unogona kungoti - haichembera, pano pamusangano wemamiriro ekunze - unogona kunzwa kunenge kufemera, zvakare, apo vanhu vanonetsana nezvazvinoreva. Nekuti zvine basa, kwete chete maererano neUnited States kudzikisa emissions uye kusangana neParis zvibodzwa zvakatemerwa, izvo zvatinoziva, nekufamba kwenguva, isu tinofanirwa kuita chishuwo uye nekukasira. Asi nekuita - nekugadzira iyo yakakura mari mukati - zvinounza mitengo pasi pese pese. Uye izvo zvinoreva kuti solar yakawanda, mhepo yakawandisa, kuwanda kwekuwanikidzwa nemutengo wakachipa, munzvimbo dziri kupawo zvakanyanya kuburitsa.
Uye zvino, padivi rekugadzirisa, zviri pachena, shanduko yemamiriro ekunze iri patiri. Ndakafamba nguva pfupi yadarika - mumwedzi mishoma yapfuura - kuenda kuSomalia, inova mwaka wechishanu wakatadza kunaya kwemvura, izvo zvisati zvamboitika munhoroondo yakanyorwa, uye Pakistan, chikamu chetatu chayo chakaguma chiri pasi pemvura nekuda kwemafashama asati amboitika, kunyunguduka. mazaya echando akasanganiswa, zvakare, monsoon mvura inonaya inofarira iyo isina akamboona.
Saka, chimwe chezvakapikirwa neMutungamiriri weBiden gore rino, zvakare, chiri kuwedzera mari yedu yezvinonzi gadziriso, kubatsira nyika kujairana nemamiriro ekunze atove pano, kunyangwe isu tichimhanyisa kuedza kwedu kudzikisa hutsi.
MSNBC's ANDREA MITCHELL ZVINOREVA: Iwe wanga uri murwi wemugwagwa wekutonga uku. Ndanga ndichitevera mafambiro ako - Ukraine, kakawanda, uchangobva kuRebhanoni, uchitarisa nezvechikafu uye nyaya yaPutin anonzi ari kutsigira chibvumirano chezviyo, kutengesa zviyo kubva kuBlack Sea, kuburikidza nekuvharika ikoko. Pane zvakawanda zviri munjodzi asi hondo yeUkraine yakawedzera kudzvanyirira kuWestern Europe kuti irambe ichivimba nemafuta efossil - pane kushoropodzwa kwakawanda kwekuti US ichatofanira kuvimba nemafuta efossil kwenguva yakareba kupfuura yayaizoda. nokuda kwehondo. Unoona sei izvi zvese zviri kuitika?
SIMBA REMUTONGI: Ndinofunga, munguva pfupi, zviri pachena kuti nyika dziri kunetsekana nekusachengeteka kwesimba kwakakosha.
Nyika dziri kushushikana kuti dzichapfuura sei munguva yechando, dziri kunetsekana nemitengo yakakwira yemafuta, uye mitengo iri kubhadhariswa naPutin, uye kwete chete naPutin, sezvo kupihwa kuri kudzikiswa nemaune pamusika wepasi rose, nekudaro kutyaira. kukwidza mitengo.
Asi izvo zvandakaona, ingotaura neRebhanoni - kwete nyika yatinofunga nezvayo mumamiriro ezvinhu aya, asi nekuti mitengo yemafuta yakakwira uye magetsi ari kushomeka uye akagoverwa munyika umo hapana chakadaro chaisatombofungidzirwa pamberi pehupfumi hwazvino. dambudziko ipapo. Iye zvino tava kuona havi yesolar yakanga isati yambovapo. Uye nekuti yakawanda solar iri kugadzirwa munzvimbo dzakawanda, mitengo iri kudzika - saka unenge uchizoona nharaunda dzakawanda, pamwe nevemasangano akazvimirira, pamwe nehurumende, neimwe nzira vachivhota netsoka dzavo. Uye iyi mutengo wakakwirira, munguva pfupi, yehuni, uye sezvaunotaura, kunyange kuvimba kwenguva pfupi kana kudzokera ku carbon, nenzira inokuvadza, pasina mubvunzo, kune zvakatipoteredza. Asi hapana akasununguka nekutsamira ikoko. Chokwadi, ndinofunga kuti zvakangodzamisa nekukudza dunhu kubva pakubva pakutsamira pamunhu akaita saPutin.
MS. MITCHELL: Iwe waive munguva pfupi yapfuura muUkraine, zvakare, uko mauto eUkraine nhasi maererano neMutungamiri Zelenskyy akapinda muKherson, nzvimbo yakaoma - mauto eRussia akadzokera kubva kune iyo nhare. Putin afunga kusazviratidza kunyangwe kuG20 kwaaizofanira kutarisana nevatungamiriri venyika, uko kwaakasarudzika munharaunda yepasirese, mumasangano emarudzi akawanda - achiwedzera. Ane veto muUN Security Council, unozviziva zviri nani kupfuura chero ani zvake aimbova mumiriri. Asi arasika chaizvo muGeneral Assembly neUN, yakanyorwa zvakakura, handiti?
SIMBA REMUTONGI: Zvamazvirokwazvo. Uye ndinofunga kuti kushandiswa kwezvombo kwezvokudya kwakaita basa guru pamwe chete neidi rokuti, chokwadika, nyika iri yose yenhengo yeChibatanwa chaMarudzi ine fariro mukusimudza inzwi rayo mukurwisana nedenho isina kudenhwa noutsinye hworudzi urwu. Nekuti nyika dzese dziri muSangano Romubatanidzwa Wenyika Dzepasi Pose dzinofunga kuti, “ko kana mumwe munhu akandiitira izvozvo, zvaizonzwa sei?”
Vane chido mumutemo wepasi rose uye kuvimbika kwenzvimbo kuri kuchengetedzwa. Vanewo chido chekudzikisa mitengo yechikafu uye zvese zvaitwa naPutin zvakakwidza mitengo yechikafu, mitengo yemafuta uye mitengo yefetereza. Saka, izvo hazvisi kumuhwina chero shamwari padanho repasi rose. Asi zvakare, izvo mauto ake ari kusangana munhandare yehondo - haisiriyo mhando yenhandare yehondo iyo Putin angashuvira kuunza kumusangano wepasirese. Icho chokwadi chekuti mauto eRussia akarasikirwa nehondo yeKyiv, iyo hondo yeKharkiv, ikozvino hondo yeKherson - izvo hazvisi izvo chaizvo kwete kuisa muvanhu veRussia rudzi rwekudada urwo Putin akazvikudza kuti ndiye achadzoreredza. iyo Russian Federation. Saka iyi yanga iri nguva yakaoma. Asi ini ndichati, Andrea, chatinoziva kubva munzvimbo dzese dzakasunungurwa muUkraine ndechekuti kune aya maficha anofadza, uye ari kufamba zvinoshamisa. Ndinofunga kuti munhu anogona kupedza zuva rose achingotarisa vana nanambuya vachibuda vachikwazisa masoja iwayo achiona kwete chete mureza weUkraine uchikwira, asi mureza weEuropean Union uchikwira mudhorobha reKherson. Panguva imwecheteyo, tinoziva kuti sezvo mauto eRussia anobuda, tinodzidza zvakawanda pamusoro pekukuvadza kwakaitwa panguva yebasa. Uye saka, isu, kuUSAID nehurumende yeUS, tiri kushanda nevatinoshanda navo pasi kuti tinyore mhosva dzehondo dzatinoziva kuti dzave kuzofukunurwa, sezvo maUkraine achisimbisa huvepo hwavo ipapo.
MS. MITCHELL: Pawakatanga basa rako, uchinyora zvinofambisa muBosnia nezvekuuraya rudzi. Iwe unonyatsotenda here kuti kuchave nekuzvidavirira kune zvinotyisa zveUkraine?
SIMBA REMUTONGI: Zvakanaka, chandinogona kutaura ndechekuti maUkraine aita marudzi ese ezvinhu zvekuti hapana akatenda kuti zvinogoneka. Nyanzvi kwese kwese, kusanganisira avo vari padyo naPutin, vaifunga kuti vaizokwanisa kuhwina izvi nekukurumidza. Ndinogonawo kutora kubva pane zvakaitika kwandiri - sezvawakataura muBosnia - apo pasina aifunga kuti paizova nekuzvidavirira kwemhosva dzehondo ikoko, kana kuti Slobodan Milošević , Ratko Mladić, vakomana ava vaizopedzisira vavharirwa. Hupenyu hurefu, nyora humbowo, simbisa humbowo, uye uenderere mberi - mune iyo United States, kutsigira kuchengetedzeka kwevanhu, kuedza kwehupfumi, uye zvinyorwa zvemhosva dzehondo pasi, uye zvinhu zvinogona kushanduka nekukurumidza.
MS. MITCHELL: Samantha Power tiri kutarisa zvakare pamifananidzo mhenyu, anokunda mafoto ekusunungurwa kweKherson. Uye ini ndinongoda kutaura kuti zviri kufamba, kunyangwe nekubhomba kwekapeti, kunyangwe nekutyisa kwese kwavakasangana nako - uye wanga uri chiyero ipapo chekusimba kwevanhu ava nevanhu pasirese paunofamba. , pasi rose, makore maviri apfuura. Isu tanga takatarisa, ndinokutendai zvikuru. Ndinokutendai nezvamuri kuita.
SIMBA REMUTONGI: Ndatenda, Andrea. Ndatenda.
