Mutori wenhau wekuEast Africa Prof. Dr. Wolfgang H. Thome vakagara pasi nemutungamiri weZambia, VaRupiah Banda, paMunyonyo Commonwealth Resort ichangobva kuitwa pahurukuro yeawa imwe chete pamusoro pebhizimusi rekushanya kweZambia.
eTN: Nditange ndakutendai, VaPresident, nekuwana nguva yekutaura ne eTN nezve indasitiri yekushanya muZambia. Nyika yako yakaita gungano rekupedzisira reSmart Partnership Dialogue gore rapfuura, ko musangano uyu wakave neshanduko dzipi uye ndedzipi shanduko dzakaitika kana kuti dziri kudzika midzi muZambia?
President Rupiah Banda: Chokwadi iyo yekupedzisira Smart Partnership yakaitwa muZambia gore rapfuura. Kubva ipapo takaita misangano yakati wandei, kusanganisira ye'Indaba' zvinoreva kuti "kongiresi yevanhu" yekukurukura magadzirirwo akachenjera ematambudziko eupfumi akatarisana neZambia. Vanhu vanopfuura 600 vakapinda, kusanganisira vakurukuri vaibva kuMauritius neMalaysia, uye Mutungamiriri weWorld Bank, uye zvakabuda zvakanaka. Mimwe misangano yakaona vamwe vatungamiri venyika vachiuya kuZambia kuzokurukura nezvezvivakwa uye kuderedza kwandinoti kupatsanurana pakati penyika dzedu mudunhu. Takatarisa migwagwa, magidhi emagetsi, zvivakwa zvepabhodha uye manejimendi. Pamusangano uyu takachingamidzawo vatinodyidzana navo mubudiriro pamwe neshamwari dzakabva kunze, dzinosanganisira USA, nyika dzeEU nedzimwe. Mhedzisiro yacho yaive chitsidzo chinodarika US$1 bhiriyoni murutsigiro rwebudiriro kugadzirisa kudiwa kwekusimbaradza zvivakwa zvinobatanidza nyika dzedu. Sehurumende takatopasisawo mabhiri akati wandei anogonesa, kusanganisira bhiri reICT, kuwedzera mari mubazi uye kubva pakutonga kwehurumende kuenda kumabhizinesi akazvimirira. Isu hatifarire kuenderera mberi nekupa mari yekurasikirwa nekuita mabhizinesi ehurumende uye nekudaro tiri kutarisa kune kudyidzana nebazi rakazvimirira.
çeTN: Chii chaunofunga chinoita kuti Zambia ive nzvimbo yekushanyirwa yakasiyana nedzimwe?
President Banda: Zambia yakasiyana zvikuru maererano nenzvimbo yayo. Isu takavharirwa nyika uye tine vavakidzani vasere, saka kana vanhu vachitaura nezve "hub," Zambia ndeyechokwadi. Iyi geographical chinzvimbo, yakapihwa zvakawanda zvekushandisa. Izvi ndezvechokwadi kune zvicherwa, izvo zvinenge zvicherwa zvese zvikuru zvinowanikwa zvichicherwa kuZambia, kunze kwemafuta, asi tichiri kutsvagawo mabhindauko emari muchikamu ichocho. Zvakare zvinokwezva zvedu zvechisikigo, maturakiti makuru evhu rinenge risati rambobatwa, kusanganisira mapaki akawanda emhuka, ane vanhu vanopfuura mamirioni gumi nerimwe chete vanogara munyika yedu. Tine mvura inonaya yakakwana kuti tirambe tichirima, uye vashanyi vanogona kuwana madziva nenzizi dzakawanda munyika yedu. Chakanyanya kukosha, chinotikwezva zvikuru iVictoria Falls mazhinji acho ari muZambia. Tatova nemapaki emhuka gumi nemapfumbamwe nemhuka dzakawanda kudarika nyika zhinji dzemuAfrica dzinosanganisira "mahombe mashanu." Mutemo unodzivirira mhuka dzesango, saka vanhu vanouya kuZambia vanogona kuona mbada, shumba, nyati, twiza, nzou, mvuu, nemakarwe pasina dambudziko. Uye zvakanyanya kukosha, isu tine rugare munyika yedu, vashanyi vanogona kuenda chero kupi pasina kuchengetedzwa kwakakosha uye havangazviwani vari munjodzi.
eTN: Nezvese zvinokwezva izvi, chii chinotadzisa vashanyi vakawanda kushanyira Zambia, kushaikwa kwendege dzekuenda kuLusaka, imari yemavhiza here, mutengo wemari yekupinda mumapaki, hutungamiriri uye mutengo kumiganhu, kushaya kushambadzira? Kuno kuEast Africa hurumende dzedu dzakadzikisa mari dzema visa nemari yekupinda mumapaki kuti vakwezve vashanyi vakawanda, ndochii chiripo muZambia.
President Banda: Zvatiri kuita ndezvekugadzirisa kushaikwa kweruzivo pasi rose pamusoro peZambia uye tiri kuedza kugadzira nzvimbo dzekushanya dzepamusoro-soro. Somuenzaniso, tine Victoria Falls, asi vanhu vashoma vanoziva kuti tingave tiine kunyange chiuru mapopoma munyika. Nzizi nemadziva edu azere nehove dzinogona kukwezva vashanyi, nyika yedu inopa safaris yemifananidzo asiwo kuvhima. Takaronga nzvimbo dzedu dzakakura nenzira yakadai, kuti tine mapaki, uko kusina kuvhima kana imwe mhirizhonga inobvumirwa kuchengetedza mhuka, uye zvakare tine nzvimbo dzekuvhima kana GMA's (magame management areas) kune avo vanouya. kuvhima mhuka.
Kushaikwa kwekushambadza kwakanaka uko hakuna kuunza vashanyi vakawanda kuZambia, zvekuti vanhu vakawanda vari kunze kwenyika havazivi zvakakwana nezveZambia nezvainoyevedza. Isu tiri nyika huru ine anopfuura 700,000 square kilometers enzvimbo uye vashanyi vanogamuchirwa kuti vawane nzvimbo dzese dzeZambia. Asi nokuda kwaizvozvo tinodawo zvivakwa kwese kwese. Hurumende yangu ikozvino yave panzvimbo kwemwedzi ye8 chete uye isu tiri kutarisisa kune iyi ficha, nzvimbo dzekugara, mahotera, uye nhandare dzendege kunyangwe munzvimbo dziri kure. Asi kunyangwe nyaya dzemuganhu dzakatora pfungwa dzedu; isu tichagadzirisa zvimiro izvi nekuti tinoda vashanyi kupfuura zvavanoda isu. Tinoda kuti vanhu vedu vave vachinyemwerera uye vachigamuchira. Panyaya yefizi, takatotanga kudzikisira mari idzi. Tinoda kuti iwe uuye munyika yedu woshandisa mari yako munyika pane kuti uishandise pakubhadhara pabhodha.
eTN: Ko tourism, chikamu chakakosheswa nehupfumi chehurumende yako here, uye kana hongu, ndezvipi zvinokurudzira zvekudyara uye mitemo yakaiswa nehurumende yako kukurudzira kutora chikamu kwakaenzana kwezvizvarwa zveZambia mukusimudzira chikamu ichi, kunze kwekukwezva Foreign Direct Investment?
President Banda: Kazhinji tiri kufamba takananga kukudyidzana neveruzhinji, tichikurudzira kudyara mari kubva kunze uye kubva mukati meZambia. VeZimbabwe vazhinji havakwanisi kugadzira zvivakwa zvepasi rose nezviwanikwa zvavo, saka takavakurudzira kuti vabatane nevanokwanisa, asi takaumbawo homwe yekusimudzira upfumi hwenyika inokosha mabhiriyoni zana nemakumi mashanu ekwacha (US$150 miriyoni), iyo vanhu vekuZambia vanogona kuwana mari yembeu. mapurojekiti akadai semaroja madiki. Uye kana makambani makuru ekunze achigadzira nzvimbo dzekutandarira nemahotera, izvo zvakanakirawo nyika yedu, nekuti kune kutariswa kwekudyara kwakadaro uye vanhu vanocherechedza Zambia. Tinogamuchira vashanyi zvakare nekugona kwavo kugadzira networking kuvanhu vedu vari muZambia, sekuti pavanoenda kuSafari nevaperekedzi vavo, vanoita shamwari, vamwe vanokokwa nekutsigirwa kuti vadzidze kunze kwenyika, vamwe vanogadzira makambani pamwechete, saka tourism inzira. kuvhura nyika nenzira yekuti inogona kuunza zvikomborero zvikuru.
eTN: Ko veZambia Tourist Board vanoita zvakakwana here kusimudzira nyika kunze kwenyika, uye chakakosha, vane bhajeti rinodiwa here kuti vaite mabasa avo?
Mutungamiri Banda: Bhodhi redu revashanyi rinonzwisisa zvinofanirwa kuitwa, asi zviri pachena kuti bhajeti harina kumbokwana, kunyanya munguva dzakaoma dzehupfumi sezvazvino. Asi zvakadaro, tawedzera mari yekushanyirwa, nekuti takaona kuti inzira yakanaka kune semuenzaniso wemigodhi nemamwe matunhu.
eTN: Gore rinouya, FIFA World Cup iri kuuya muAfrica kekutanga. Zambia irikuda kubatsirikana sei kubva kunharaunda yairi kuSouth Africa uye kukwezva vashanyi kuti vaone Victoria Falls nemapaki emitambo mutambo mukuru usati watanga uye wapera?
President Banda: kutaura chokwadi, gadziriro dzemuviri dzakaita sekuvaka nhandare, izvo zvisati zvaitika, saka isu hatingakoke zvikwata kuti zvigare nesu tichidzidzira kuZambia. Asi kune vashanyi, vanogona kubva nyore kubva kuSouth Africa uye kutishanyira. Ingori maminetsi makumi mapfumbamwe kubva kuJohannesburg kuenda kuLivingstone, saka vashanyi kuWorld Cup vanogona kutora zuva kana maviri uye kubhururuka kuti vaone mapopoma, kana kumbogara zvishoma, uye isu tatova nemahotera akanaka kwazvo, maroja nenzvimbo dzekutandarira. muLivingstone kune vashanyi vedu vekune dzimwe nyika uye zvimwe zviri kuvakwa kana kurongerwa nzvimbo yese iyo vashanyi vangangoda kuenda nekushanya.
eTN: Kuno kuEast Africa tiri kuedza kumisa nzvimbo imwe chete yeVisa yevashanyi kuti vashanyire vanhu vakwanise kutenga, ko Zambia inoiona sei kuedza kwakadai mukati meSADC uye kunyanya vavakidzani vayo, idzo dzose dziri nzvimbo dzekushanyirwa?
President Banda: Ichokwadi, Visa richiri dambudziko asi masangano edu ematunhu akaita seSADC (Southern Africa Development Community) neEAC (East African Community) neCOMESA (Common Market for Eastern and Southern Africa) ari kugadzirisa dambudziko iri. nemhinduro. Tinofanira kuita kuti zvive nyore kune vashanyi kuti vauye kuzoona nyika dzinopfuura imwe munharaunda uye kwete kushandisa mari yakawanda yevisa. Vese vavakidzani vedu vane indasitiri yekushanya uye pamwe chete tinogona kuvandudza zvakawanda zvezvivakwa zvedu uye nekupa mabasa ari nani kune vashanyi.
eTN: Rudzi rwekushanyirwa kwemhuka dzemusango dzinosimudzira nyika zhinji dzemuAfrica zviri pachena kuti rinoda nhamba dzemitambo yakakura. Tinogara tichinzwa nezvedambudziko rekuvhima zvisiri pamutemo kune dzimwe nzvimbo dziri kuSouthern Africa, zvikuru muZimbabwe asi zviri pachena kuti kuZambia zvakare. Ndeupi mutemo wehurumende yako wekukurudzira kuchengetedza mhuka dzesango, kumisa kuvhima zvisiri pamutemo uye kugadzira mhinduro dzakasimba dzezvinetso zvinobva mukuwanda kwevanhu uye kudiwa kwekugarisana kwekuchengetedza nekusimudzira hupfumi, vanhu nemhuka dzesango?
President Banda: Hongu, kuvhima zvisiri pamutemo ichiri nyaya hombe mune dzimwe nzvimbo asi tine mitemo yakasimba uye inogona kuita kuti ive yakasimba kana zvichidiwa. Takazvipira kuchengetedza mhuka dzedu muma game park uye patinowana vanhu vachivhima zvisiri pamutemo, vanorangwa. Asi iwe zvakare unofanirwa kurangarira, Zambia yaive imba yemasangano ese erusununguko muSouthern Africa yese uye nekuda kwezvimwe zvezvinhu zvakasiiwa uye nemabatiro akaita vanhu zvinhu ipapo, tine dambudziko, asi isu takasimba. kubata nazvo uye kudzivirira mhuka yemusango zvakanyanya sezvatinogona.
eTN: Ndakaverenga kuti sangano renyu rinoona nezvemhuka dzesango ZAWA rave nerupo rwakakura mukupa mapaki makuru kune vanoisa mari; icho chikamu chemutemo wehurumende uye nemikana ipi iripo kana kuti yakagadzirirwa vanhuwo zvavo vekuZambia kuti vapinde mubhizimusi iri kuti vabvumire mabhizimisi madiki nepakati kuti abudirirewo?
President Banda: KuZambia tinoda mikana kune veZambia uyewo kune vekunze vanoda mari. Hurumende yangu yakatsunga kupa mikana yekudyara kwakazvimirira pamatanho ese uye mumakona ese enyika. Kune mapaki akawanda ane anenge asina zvivakwa uye izvo zvinofanirwa kuchinja kana isu tichida kuwana vazhinji vashanyi kuti vashanyire.
eTN: Kutevera ZAWA kana zvichibvira, vane chekuita nekushanyirwa kwenyika muZambia vanoita sevasina hukama navo, pamusoro pekukwira kwemitengo, kushaikwa kwezvivakwa mukati nekunze kwemapaki, pamusoro pekuwanda kwemvumo yemubatanidzwa mukuru wepasi rose. Ndeipi nzira yauri kutora hurumende yako kuti iwane pundutso kuzvizvarwa zveZambia, hupfumi hweZambia uye nekusimbaradza kwenguva refu?
President Banda: Takatotaura pamusoro pehomwe yeempowerment iripo kune vekuZambia uyezve pane kumwe kudyidzana kunogoneka uye kuripo pakati pevemabhizinesi zvakananga uye kunyangwe kuburikidza nekudyidzana kweveruzhinji. Isu sehurumende takazvipira kuunza budiriro kunyangwe muchikamu che tourism.
eTN: Mutungamiriri wenyika VaMuseveni pavakavhura kutaura kwavo vakaburitsa pachena kuti pasina hurongwa hwese kuyedza kukwezva mabhindauko ekusimudzira maindasitiri hakuna maturo. Kuno kuUganda isu tine makore maviri apfuura takatanga gadziriso huru maererano nemigwagwa uye njanji kugadzirisa uye kugadzira magetsi. Hurumende yako inosvika sei panyaya iyi yakaoma, mushure mezvose pasina migwagwa yakanaka vashanyi havakwanise kusvika kumapaki emitambo?
President Banda: Iri idambudziko guru kunyika dzakawanda dzinosanganisira Zambia asi takatanga nechirongwa chemumigwagwa uye tiri kuda kuita zvakawanda. Pane nyayawo yemagetsi nemagetsi emagetsi, yatiri kutaura sedunhu uye tiri kushandawo panhandare dzendege nendege dziri kune dzimwe nzvimbo dzenyika kuti tivandudze kana kuvaka kuti tive nevashanyi uye vanhu vedu vafambe. nyore kubva kune imwe nzvimbo yeZambia kuenda kune imwe. Ipapo vashanyi vanogona kusarudza kutyaira kana kubhururuka kana zvese zviri zviviri, chero zvakavanakira.
eTN: Pane tsumo inoti, “kushanya runyararo uye runyararo kushanya,” muZimbabwe magara makakatanwa uye bhizimusi rekushanya rakambobudirira rakapotsa raparara. Izvi zvinofanira kunge zvakakanganisawo Zambia. Hurumende yenyu iri kubata sei nenyaya yakakosha yedunhu iri kutanga kushanya uye kuwedzera mabasa uye mari yekunze inogona kuwanikwa kuZambia nevavakidzani vayo?
President Banda: Chero matambudziko munharaunda yenyu anobatawo imi. Isu tanga tichiedza kutsvaga mhinduro yematambudziko akadaro kubva mukati medunhu nekuti mhinduro dzekunze hadzina kunyatsokodzera, mhinduro dzinoda kugamuchirwa nekumbundirwa nevaya vanobatwa uye vane hanya. Tinofara muZambia kuona budiriro ichiitwa kusvika kumagumo iwayo nekuti dunhu rakabudirira rinounza pundutso kumunhu wese. Kana tiri kuZambia, tiri kurarama murunyararo uye tinoshuvira kuona nyika yese yakatitenderedza tichigarawo murunyararo. Makabvunza nezve tourism muZimbabwe kana pasina vashanyi varikuuya ikoko hatisi kuvaonawo. Saka kushanya kwakanaka muZimbabwe uye chero vavakidzani vedu kuchabatsirawo kuZambia, uye ndinonzwa kuti zvinhu zvave kusimuka zvakare zvinova zvinova chiratidzo chekuti rubatsiro rwematunhu rwabudirira.
eTN: Kusvika pedyo nekumagumo, mune dzangu dzakasiyana siyana kusimudzira zviwanikwa zvevanhu, kufambiswa kwehunyanzvi uye kuvaka basa ibwe repakona muhupenyu hwangu hwehunyanzvi, zvikamu izvi zvinoita basa rei kuZambia, une koreji yekugamuchira vaenzi uye yekudzidzisa vashanyi, yehunyanzvi zvirongwa zvekudzidzisa uye zvirongwa zvekusimudzira mabasa kuti zviwanze mabasa kune vechidiki vekuZambia vanoda kupinda muchikamu chekushanya?
President Banda: Iri idambudziko chairo richiri kuZambia, tinofanira kuita zvakawanda pamusoro pezvidzidzo zvemabasa emawoko, zvivakwa zvekudzidzira, makoreji nezvimwewo. Tinoziva nezvekubudirira kweUtalii muKenya uye tinoda chaizvo masangano akafanana kuti tidzidzise vechidiki vedu. Vanofanira kudzidza mabasa avo nemabasa emaoko kuti vakwanise kuenzanisa nezvimiro zvedzimwe nyika dzakatipoteredza, uye vagokwanisa kunyange kushanda kunze kwenyika sevatorwa. Ndinonzwa maKenya mazhinji uye kunyangwe vekuUganda vava kushanda kunze kwenyika mushure mekutanga kudzidziswa kwakanaka kumba, saka icho chinhu chakakosha pamberi pedu muZambia. Tinogona kugamuchira nyore nyore rubatsiro kubva kushamwari dzedu mudunhu uye mberi kune dzimwe nyika nekuti kudzidziswa kwakanaka uye hunyanzvi zvinopa vechidiki vedu mukana wekuwana basa rakanaka uye kuvaka mabasa. Wati ndiwe sachigaro wechikoro chehotera chekuUganda, saka chero rubatsiro ruchagamuchirwa uye takavhurika kufambisa rubatsiro rwakadaro nemikana takamiririra vechidiki vedu. Kuvaendesa kunze kwenyika kunodzidziswa kunongove kwevashoma, saka tinoshuvira kugadzira hunyanzvi mukati meZambia kuti tizadzise izvo zvinodiwa zvekudzidziswa.
eTN: Chekupedzisira, zvese zvakanaka here, hurongwa hwekuita nemapindiro amataura nezvawo zvichavepo pamberi peFIFA World Cup kuti zvibereke zvibereko zveZambia uye kuzivisa shanduko mune dzakawanda makambani akazvimirira ega ekushanyirwa kwenyika anga akamirira?
President Banda: Sezvandambotaura, hatisi kuzova nenhandare dzezvikwata zvekunze asi tine zvakawanda zvinotikwezva uye tinotarisira kuti vashanyi vakawanda vauye kuzoshanyira Victoria Falls mukombe wepasi rose usati watanga, panguva uye mushure mekupera. Boka redu revashanyi richashanda mukuita kuti Zambia izivikanwe kuitira kuti tigone kutora mukana nezvivakwa zvatagara tinazvo, mahotera, safari lodges nenzvimbo dzekutandarira. Nezve zvimwe zvese zvatakataura nezvazvo, hurumende yangu iri kufamba nekukurumidza sezvatinogona, asi zvinhu hazviitike nehusiku humwe, zvivakwa zvinotora nguva kuronga nekuvaka. Kune vatsigiri venhabvu vari kuuya kuSouth Africa, vakasununguka kushanyirawo Zambia uye tinotarisira kuti indasitiri yedu yekushanyirwa ivhure zvakawanda uye kuunza vashanyi vakawanda munyika yedu.
